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    Re: More Religious Right Propaganda

    I'd like to see 150 years of legal precedents supporting Mansfield's claim that the Constitution, as it pertains to the relationship of religion to civil authority, does nothing more than prohibit...
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    Re: More Religious Right Propaganda

    Notice his emphasis on the several states' rights to be religious. I bet his idea of a state being religious is its assuming coercive or advisory authority over the people's religion.
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    Re: More Religious Right Propaganda

    You got a point there, dude. I was hoping someone would endorse the author's views so I could jump him.
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    Re: More Religious Right Propaganda

    Is there a rule that says I can only post opinions I agree with?
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    Re: More Religious Right Propaganda

    Beats me, dude. I think the essay is pure propaganda.

    Mansfield commences his propaganda piece, by tossing a tub to the whale, as follows.


    Two days after he wrote the famous words...
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    Re: More Religious Right Propaganda

    Nope, it don't.
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    More Religious Right Propaganda

    The Founders Got It Right

    Religion now rests in a tortured place in society today, thanks largely to unfortunate and misguided rulings of the Supreme Court.

    By Stephen Mansfield

    Two days...
  8. Re: America- Not Necessarily a Christian Nation

    If American is a Christian Nation why did the attempts in the 1800's to "Christianize" the Constitution, fail so overwhelmingly?
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    What is the definintin of "an establishment of religion?"

    What is the definition of "an establishment of religion?" If the prohibition is against all forms of religious establishment, we need to know what one is so that we don't establish one.

    What does...
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    The Myth of Open Prayer in the U. S. Congress

    I have investigated the claims of Chief Justice Warren Burger regarding the compensation of the Chaplains to the the First U. S. Congress, and the opening of daily assemblies of the U. S. Senate and...
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    Re: Separation of Church and State?

    What kind of zealot sued the district? Was it a church state issue? What was the beef?

    There is a dispute I know of in the Dallas area where a parent claims a violation of the establishment...
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    Re: Separation of Church and State?

    James Madison defined the word "religion" in the First Amednemt to mean "the duty which we owe to the Creator." The duty we owe Satan is not "religion" under Madison's view of the establishment...
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    Re: Separation of Church and State?

    I did 18 months in the U. S. Army as a paratrooper.

    I guess if you teach math, God may not come up that often. But "don't mention God" is a bit harsh. I am gonna guess that the administrator's...
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    Re: Separation of Church and State?

    Howdy Mr. Jives:

    What did you fly?

    Do you teach in a public school? If so, what sort of guidelines do you have regarding separation of church and state? Do you lead your students in the...
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    Re: Separation of Church and State?

    In the debate on the meaning of the establishment clause, there are much more relevant opinions than those of John Jay. During the founding era there were those who favored what James Madison...
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    Re: Separation of Church and State?

    If you show me the precise law suits you refer to, I will examine them and answer your question.

    Fred
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    Re: Separation of Church and State?

    Patrick Henry and John Jay are not at the top of the list of authorities on the meaning of the First Amendment. If the aim is to discern the understanding of the legal bodies that gave legal effect...
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    Re: Separation of Church and State?

    No other framer or ratifier of the First Amendment, other than James Madison, is known to have attempted to perpetuate or promulgate his interpretation of the religion clauses. Why do you suppose...
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    Re: Separation of Church and State?

    James Madison is the authority on the establishment clause and the word “religion” in the establishment clause means “the duty that we owe to the Creator”. If we owe the Creator the duty to...
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    Re: Separation of Church and State?

    I thought you claimed the Fourteenth Amendment should not be interpreted to incorporate the First Amendment I was examining your interpretion.

    Fred
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