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<t>Galbally;1083656 wrote: Jester, as a military man, I respect your opinion and your world view. I understand why you feel the way you do. In general I agree that security and peace are ultimately only obtainable through the use of direct power, and I am no peacenik. If the US was unprepared to use...

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<t>Bryn Mawr;1083657 wrote: To paraphrase then - those who aren't with us are against us so we'll kill them. A wonderful philosophy for the shell shocked but hardly a way to live a healthy life. As to the bit I've highlighted, can you produce any evidence of that (prior to the invasion of...

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<t>Bryn Mawr;1083657 wrote: To paraphrase then - those who aren't with us are against us so we'll kill them. A wonderful philosophy for the shell shocked but hardly a way to live a healthy life. As to the bit I've highlighted, can you produce any evidence of that (prior to the invasion of...

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Thanks for sharing Odie. These are great pics. Looks like you are very lucky, you have a great family.

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<t>Jester;1083647 wrote: Jimbo you just do what we been doing, western nations ( nations who support the casue) need to pool intel, be open, have a ready force to deploy to root out and destropy terror cells wherever they find them, first as part of that coutnries sovering responsibilty to make them...

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Jester;1083615 wrote: Removal of Saddam.

That was a bright day when they took that scum out. Made my day. And there are a few fanatics running around there as well. So hopefully they cleaned out a nest or two of em.

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<t>oscar;1083607 wrote: I'm not going to protest weather i am anti-american or not... I don't have to. There are many many threads on here (mostly posted by myself) about British politics or Gordon Brown. Most times i post them i ask for American's to join in because it seems that you ste...

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<t>flopstock;1083606 wrote: Jimbo is an idiot.. that doesn't make him anti american, IMO:-4. My only issue with Jimbo in this thread is that in attempting to turn accountables thread into another one of his one liner threads, he has finally gotten on my last nerve. I take it ...

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<t>YZGI;1083599 wrote: I'll have to say, I pretty much read all of Jimbo's posts and I have never considered one single post to be anti american. There are a few on here that are very anti-american but Jimbo is not one of them. Wild if you have taken offense to any of Jimbo's posts then you have jus...

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<r>jimbo;1083593 wrote: i'm not anti american at all in any way <E>:)</E> there must be another jimbo in a parallell fg posting in my name :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl if any one can pull up a post that i say i dont like americans then i'll give hem all my casino ...

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<t>Imladris;1083579 wrote: Stick around and read more of Jimbo's posts - he's not anti-anything or anyone unless there is a bloody good reason for it, he's anti-cruelty, anti-abuse, anti-intolerance but never have I seen him be anti-American, that's far too sweeping a statement to apply to him. ...

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<t>Galbally;1083536 wrote: I think you have to give some context to why attitudes are so sharply different in the UK and the US. In the UK, there was never mass support for this war, at least one million people marched in London in 2003 to urge the government not to send the British Army...

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sunny104;1083538 wrote: yep, no anti-Americanism around here at all....:rolleyes:

Nope no anti americanism.....we just have no sense of humor thats all. We just take things too personal thats all.

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<r>jimbo;1083508 wrote: no she dont honest <E>:)</E> i have loads of friends in the army they like myself was all for the war when i thought iraq had WMD ,NOW the facts are they did not have them, i like most of them ...

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<t>Lenn;1083526 wrote: Revenge is sweet... isn't it? Revenge is what Americans like best, forgetting so often 'bout their christian roots. This is a nasty, hostile remark. All Americans are not any particular way or type. You are making a blanket statement about a vast group of peop...

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<t>flopstock;1083502 wrote: Yeah, and those of us that do hang around find ourselves left with threads asking folks what's for breakfast, unless we want the same crap flung at us in any discussion about ourselves.. BTW Jimbo, I'm reading this thread as a serious on...

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<t>jimbo;1083501 wrote: so if i have pretty much posted blair/bush war thoughts that makes me anti british i take it :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl who won the bloody boston tea party anyway you limey's :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl <b...

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<r>jimbo;1083489 wrote: obahma will stop the war <E>:)</E> but getting back to the war on iraq and leaving my daughters thoughts out of it what was the justification for us UK/USA breaking international law and invading iraq i sa...

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<r>sunny104;1083488 wrote: I've noticed that it's becoming worse too. But when we complain we're told that "it's not you it's your politicians" or that we have no sense of humor. <EMOJI seq="1f914" tseq="1f914">:thinking:</EMOJI> The constant digs are getting tiring. It'll be sad to start losing mem...

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<r>jimbo;1083476 wrote: she believes the war in iraq is wrong as do most americans i know but to defend your country is an honourable thing .... blindly towing the line and invading other countrys against international law is wrong ... when obahma gets in are you then going t...

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<t>Galbally;1083330 wrote: This is a case of shockingly blatant corruption. I wouldn't agree that all US Governors are as corrupt as this man so blatantly was or is, I am sure there is corruption in the US system, there is plenty of it here too in Europe; and everywhere else I imagine. I...

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<t>spot;1083460 wrote: Opinions can be sound or unsound. Yours seem based solely on ideology and bias unless you'd care to at least occasionally introduce some evidence to go along with the opinion. Justified opinion is worth more than unjustified opinion. We know what you think, now justify it.<br/...

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<r>jimbo;1083451 wrote: i'm not angry in the least :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl you have every right to your opinion i'm just rying too find out what it is <E>:)</E>:) by the way i have a 19 year old american daughter who is joining the us army or at least she is ...

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<r>jimbo;1083449 wrote: i dont know of one fg person that is anti american anti bush policy yes but not anti american just because someone is anti iraq war does not make them anti american i think you guys just pull that one out...

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<r>jimbo;1083446 wrote: angry where do you see even a hint of anger in my post :wah::wah: i am trying without any nastiness to present facts just facts ...facts that come from senior Americans ,from the CIA and other high places <E>:)</E> so you seem to ...

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<r>jimbo;1083420 wrote: there never was a terrorist reason for a war in iraq the muslim terrorists hated saddam as much as they hate some of us i'm a patriot i hate what bush and blair have done to our countries what was once the...

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<r>jimbo;1083420 wrote: there never was a terrorist reason for a war in iraq the muslim terrorists hated saddam as much as they hate some of us i'm a patriot i hate what bush and blair have done to our countries what was once the...

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<r>jimbo;1083422 wrote: not at all buddy i'm very much pro american but by pointing out the war on iraq is doing done great harm to the US/UK i'm being patriotic by supporting my country not my politition ruining it <...

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<t>jimbo;1083408 wrote: well it seems he truth is there were no WMD'S that is why we went to war :-3:-3 Thats right there were not. But it was broadcast and written right? So my point was that just because something is written or broadcast does not mean it it ...

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<r>jimbo;1083399 wrote: without starting another free for all here are he facts on the war Uncovered: The Whole Truth about the Iraq war are these lies ? or are here facts saying there were WMD ...

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<t>fuzzy butt;1083401 wrote: Teh US censors it before it gets to the BBC . they censor it before it even gets out of Iraq most of the time and the stuff that does get out without them knowing is seen as supporting the terrorists. Funny I find it disturbing. You mean a source other than yo...

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<r>fuzzy butt;1083400 wrote: Nope I believe in updates and different journalistic points of view ....helps me to decide rather than sitting here being a pleb.<E>:)</E> Well there are different points of view, but they are consisitent with the broadcast. The point is that the BBC bro...

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Accountable;1083395 wrote: Somebody email me if ya'll ever get rid of this anti-US cancer that's infested the Garden.

I agree Accountable. The whole place is suddenly flooded with it.

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<t>fuzzy butt;1083390 wrote: That's a bit of a conceited view................voice of reason? Thought my mother was already in bed!!!!! And you dont' see a problem with this? Why should it be a problem that the broadcast version of a news channel is the same a...

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<t>fuzzy butt;1083387 wrote: Because the US has censored everything. Absolutely everything.!!!!! So explain what the US does exactly....to censor the BBC web site. Do they alter the page? Put a phony page there? LOL. Please dont go off the deep end with the conspiracy thing and cens...

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<t>spot;1083376 wrote: Because the BBC Director General said so when he appeared before the House Of Commons committee taking evidence from him on the future of British Broadcasting last month. There's a constant tension over the BBC driven by its funding through a national levy of $250 a year on ev...

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<r>AussiePam;1083368 wrote: I'll probably regret writing this - but whenever I read Jester et al on these kind of subjects, I groan inwardly and my psyche cries out for the pronouncements of Spot et al. And whenever I read Spot et al on these kind of subjects, I groan inwardly and my psyche cries ou...

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<t>spot;1083372 wrote: Then how can you write "Maybe the only Iraquis they can find all agree with American involvment" when those two sources make it completely obvious that there are lots who don't? Because most are in favor of American involvement. Maybe they could not find any t...

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<t>spot;1083366 wrote: I thought the BBC web broadcasts were limited to the UK but, not unreasonably, I've never been able to test that. I'm surprised you can receive them but I note that you can. Why should it not be available globally? All media is available globally. The internet...

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<t>spot;1083364 wrote: You hear a tone of anger in what I write? It's an interesting perception on your part, I'm writing as factually as I can. No, your opinion's worthless unless it's related to the real world. You need to be able to produce evidence of what you claim just like the rest of us do.<...

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spot;1083357 wrote: How does that relate to what I wrote, since you quoted me?

Obviously it means I disagree with your comment....as usual.

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spot;1083359 wrote: You should watch Al Jazeera for a few days mate, you'll see you're mistaken. Or the BBC.

I do. I have both in my favorites. You see, Spot, I have access to the same media you do.

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<t>spot;1083356 wrote: I'm merely comparing your statements with the newspaper headlines of the last twenty years. What I describe agrees with them, what you describe is fresh-minted out of your own head with no grounding in real-world events. Why are you getting angry? This is just...

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<t>fuzzy butt;1083354 wrote: Hmmm this is the opinions held by those who have had total censorship of the media. The jailing of journalists as "the enemy " so it doesn't matter if you kill them!!!! double the amount of journalists have been killed in Iraq alone than in the entire world war two!!! An...

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<t>spot;1083352 wrote: Froth and ranting, wildhorses. What you write and what happens in the world are completely divorced. You're making up fiction. The suicide bombers were in Israel and, I'll say it again, the Iraqi government wasn't the only one making those payments. So did and so do...

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<t>spot;1083351 wrote: I'm slightly puzzled by the thread. The chap merely says that Muslims caught celebrating Christmas by Allah will go to hell because celebrating Christmas is heretical. He's not even calling for Muslims to kill heretical Muslims, he's saying leave it to Allah to punish them. Wh...

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<t>spot;1083349 wrote: Saddam offered money to the families of suicide bombers in the USA? I think not. Saddam offered money to the families of suicide bombers in Israel? So did and so does Saudi Arabia to this very day. That excuse fails for both reasons. The US seems oblivious to the fact that Mus...

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<t>Bryn Mawr;1083343 wrote: The US Commission after 9/11 found no evidence that Iraq was in any way involved in commissioning or supporting the terrorists - in what way was the invasion justified? Commissioning and supporting terrorists is different from neglecting to do anything ab...

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<t>Bryn Mawr;1083340 wrote: That's the whole point about a terrorist organisation, it exists in many, many countries rather than consists of many countries. Just because a terrorist cell exists in a country you do not have justification for invading that country. As an example, there are ...

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<t>Bryn Mawr;1083336 wrote: At last! Two words together that are not just trying to mock your way through the discussion. Could you now suggest how sending tanks and strike aircraft to invade a country that was in no way involved in the terrorism is going to stop that infiltration? <...

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