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    That's due to the fact that you nothing about US monetary policy or Marxism, which are two very different subjects. That you conflate the two is revealing of the height of your ignorance and that you're doing nothing other than trolling the thread.
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    I am like everyone in USA overwhelmed by so many young democrats thinking they can save our USA. They want to pick one subject, study it well and ding-dong it to death. Makes them look like they are educated on all the problems. This country is so complex it is something that cannot be rehabbed in a few days. I did not like the way Miss Harris from Calif. sliced into Biden at the first forum. She set him up then cut him up. Was not impressed by her attitude at all. Biden and Sanders are the only two older men and they know what needs to really be done. The younger generation thinks because they are young they are more alert, smarter, more energetic, blah,blah, blah. The same thing is happening when all the republicans ran in the last election. There were so many that picked the one most known. Bad mistake.
    There is an ideological divide concerning Democrats and in spite of Harris' attack on Biden, the two appear to be very closely aligned, whereas, Sanders and Warren would be more closely aligned, though not as close as Biden and Harris are. What I think we're seeing in this particular instance is the two (Biden and Harris) vying for the attention (and money) of democratic corporate contributors and the corporate media. Harris won that round, but there is a consensus out there and growing that suggests that the media and contributors I mentioned are looking to see a Biden/Harris ticket. That's not a ticket I could vote for, but I'm not a conventional Democrat. In fact, I no longer wish to consider myself a Democrat at all.
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    You know you're getting old when you say things like:

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    The younger generation thinks because they are young they are more alert, smarter, more energetic, blah,blah, blah.
    One day they will say the same about their own kids/grandkids. And the beat goes on....

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    You know you're getting old when you say things like:


    One day they will say the same about their own kids/grandkids. And the beat goes on....
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    Gabbard, Sanders, and Warren made good showings again in the second debates. The Neoliberal media and power brokers of the Democratic party don't like any of the three.
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    Re: The Presidential Election of 2020

    I'll drop this here because it's an indication of the political temperature in America at the moment.

    Republican congressman Steve King has tried to defend a proposal for absolutist abortion restrictions on Wednesday by saying that without rape and incest the human race might long since have disappeared.

    “What if we went back through all the family trees and just pulled out anyone who was a product of rape or incest?” King told a breakfast meeting in Urbandale, Iowa. “Would there be any population of the world left if we did that? Considering all the wars and all the rapes and pillages that happened throughout all these different nations, I know that I can’t say that I was not a part of a product of that.”

    King, who has been praised by Donald Trump as possibly “the world’s most conservative human being”, has sponsored a bill to ban abortion including in cases of rape and incest.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ncest-abortion
    Though "the world’s most conservative human being" is surely an exaggeration. But a statistical incompetent, definitely.
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    I'll drop this here because it's an indication of the political temperature in America at the moment.



    Though "the world’s most conservative human being" is surely an exaggeration. But a statistical incompetent, definitely.
    King's God allowed that to happen? Considering God raped Mary, any decedent of Jesus would have been such a product. But then Jesus never passed along his genes.

    Because none of us can claim that we're not the product of rape or incest somewhere down the line, that doesn't mean we all are (or even a majority of us for that matter).

    Religious conservatives like to straddle every fence they can when it suits their idiotic ideas.
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    It's as meaningless a what-if as what if we removed all descendants of people with a W in their name, or people born on the 23rd, or people who drowned.

    If you go back and change any single event then everything that happens after the change will be different. Other people will eventually form the entire subsequent population after each individual change. One change does not change one line of descent, it obliterates an entire future world. That's the paradox of affecting the past, not that individuals in the present will wink out one by one.

    Your weasel congressman should not be in a position where he can attempt to legislate, he's a manipulative rabble-rousing scoundrel.
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    I think by Trump's description of King as the "most conservative person" he means "morally just".

    I think King is saying that all humans who've ever existed outside God's moral code are prone to commit sin, including rape, incest, and murder (abortion). King believes it is the codifying of his God's moral law into human law that makes people behave righteously moral because the human condition is naturally sinful. So, in King's mind, no matter who is eliminated down the line the results would be the same.

    Those of us who actually have even a slight bit of insight into what human nature actually is understands that both Trump and King are incorrect. But this is America, where, among the majority, twelfth-century belief trumps 21st-century knowledge. C'est la vie in these United States.
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    For the record, I do not think any relationship between consenting adults is wrong. That includes incest.
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