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    Re: Science Disproves Evolution

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    There is a plethora of evidence from Gene Mapping.

    With evolution differences branch off. To start with they can interbreed, but after a while they become aspeciated & can no longer do so. Neanderthals had branched off, although it is true that they were still sufficiently closely related so as to interbreed. As you said, there has been a degree of Evolution amid humans inasmuch as there are Black, White, Asian, etc, which are distinguishable by skeletal structure. The Black gene is the dominant one, but they are still interbreedable.

    Faith, by definition, has no need of evidence. Religion, by definition requires a Deity, usually with an After Life as well.
    Evolutionism has nothing to do with Religion. It is not exclusive to Atheism, as most Religions also accept Evolution as a Scientific Fact.
    Science, by definition relies on Evidence first. It then forms a Hypothesis to explain the Evidence. It then performs experiments & makes predictions to try to falsify the Hypothsis. After much testing it finally becomes elevated to the state of a Theory. It cannot reach the level of a Theory without all the Evidence to back it up.
    Evolution is NOT a demonstrable fact of nature. In fact, it ONLY occurs on a micro level. You NEVER see once an animal kind evolve into another. No half horse, half moose, no half dog, half cat, ect. Not only is there a missing link, but there are missing links from every animal kind.
    Of course you never see one animal evolving into another. That's not how evolution works. Why is it that Creationists can never get a grasp on exactly what Evolution is. Creationists always come up with the same arguments about dogs biving birth to a cat, and the like, which only serves to demonstrate even more that they don't have a clue what they're talking about.

    There is no difference between Macro Eveolution & Micro Evolution. It's just that when you get multiple "Micro Evolutions" eventually they add up to a "Macro Evolution". At which point do you decide that one is no longer the other?

    Evolution has been observed time & time again. Most modern medicine relies on observing it & modifying it accordingly. It is the similarity between other cousins, such as pigs, which make them ideal for transplanting of body parts.

    The fact that animals have vestigial organs is also a demonstration of how evolution is a fact - such as they fact that whales have fingers, toes & kneecaps. Why Emus have a claw on their wings. Why humans have an appendix - as well as a tail bone. Furthermore, all mammals have exactly the same bones, just in different proportions & shapes - often serving different purposes.

    Evolutionists have never made the claim of something coming from nothing. Evolutionism has nothing to do with the initial Creation of Life. Evolution is, by definition, to do with the changing of existing life. However, all life is made up of exactly the same type of atoms & molecules as the rest of the Universe. After all, we are more than 90% water - the most common molecule in the Universe, mainly made up of Hydrogen - the most common element in the Universe, which is also made up of Oxygen, which life requires to exist.

    I half expect you to come up with the usual argument of a Universe designed for us when the vast majority of the Universe couldn't be more hostile to us. But you are like Douglas Adams charactature of the puddle which believes that the hole is Intelligently Designed for him, because he fits the shape of the whole so perfectly.
    Life evolves to suit its environment - not the other way round. If the environment changes & life doesn't evolve it dies out. Those that are best suited to the changes survive to pass on those genes to the next generation.

    You really should watch some of the Atheist Experience videos on YouTube. Better still, phone in when they're live - preferably when Matt Dillahunty's hosting. He'll make mincemeat of you.

    One example...
    http://youtu.be/AUVDrpVUy2E[/QUOTE]

    Gene mapping shows that all of the creatures in the world came together at the same time, which baffles evolutionists, but not creationists. I know what you believe because I learned all about it in School myself. How much time did you spend studying the Creationist side of the story?

    True, Faith requires no evidence, however, my Faith is backed up by the evidence. Evolution is an Atheistic way of trying to explain the Universe without a God and it IS a religion because it requires Faith to due much lacking evidence in many areas.

    Micro Evolution has been observed, but that's not Darwinian Evolution. Macro Evolution has NEVER been observed. You only see examples of Lateral Adaptation or Micro Evolution. It's not the same as one animal kind evolving into another. That has NEVER been observed.

    These so called Vestigial organs are not vestigial. They just can't always explain their function until later. The Appendix is an example of what they used to call Vestigial, but now they know that there is a function. There are many other examples.

    There is a HUGE difference between Micro Evolution and Macro Evolution because Macro Evolution requires an INCREASE in genetic information, but Micro Evolution does not. Big difference. An INCREASE in Genetic Information due to a Mutation has never been observed and even Richard Dawkins himself had to admit this.

    Turn on Tune In Radio, WMUZ and listen to The Bob Dutko Show, M-F from 12pm-4pm. He debates and destroys PHD Evolutionsts on a regular basis. You can even call into his show on Fridays. You should call in and make him look stupid. I would gladly listen.

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    Re: Science Disproves Evolution

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    Of course you never see one animal evolving into another. That's not how evolution works. Why is it that Creationists can never get a grasp on exactly what Evolution is. Creationists always come up with the same arguments about dogs biving birth to a cat, and the like, which only serves to demonstrate even more that they don't have a clue what they're talking about.

    There is no difference between Macro Eveolution & Micro Evolution. It's just that when you get multiple "Micro Evolutions" eventually they add up to a "Macro Evolution". At which point do you decide that one is no longer the other?

    Evolution has been observed time & time again. Most modern medicine relies on observing it & modifying it accordingly. It is the similarity between other cousins, such as pigs, which make them ideal for transplanting of body parts.

    The fact that animals have vestigial organs is also a demonstration of how evolution is a fact - such as they fact that whales have fingers, toes & kneecaps. Why Emus have a claw on their wings. Why humans have an appendix - as well as a tail bone. Furthermore, all mammals have exactly the same bones, just in different proportions & shapes - often serving different purposes.

    Evolutionists have never made the claim of something coming from nothing. Evolutionism has nothing to do with the initial Creation of Life. Evolution is, by definition, to do with the changing of existing life. However, all life is made up of exactly the same type of atoms & molecules as the rest of the Universe. After all, we are more than 90% water - the most common molecule in the Universe, mainly made up of Hydrogen - the most common element in the Universe, which is also made up of Oxygen, which life requires to exist.

    I half expect you to come up with the usual argument of a Universe designed for us when the vast majority of the Universe couldn't be more hostile to us. But you are like Douglas Adams charactature of the puddle which believes that the hole is Intelligently Designed for him, because he fits the shape of the whole so perfectly.
    Life evolves to suit its environment - not the other way round. If the environment changes & life doesn't evolve it dies out. Those that are best suited to the changes survive to pass on those genes to the next generation.

    You really should watch some of the Atheist Experience videos on YouTube. Better still, phone in when they're live - preferably when Matt Dillahunty's hosting. He'll make mincemeat of you.

    One example...
    http://youtu.be/AUVDrpVUy2E

    Gene mapping shows that all of the creatures in the world came together at the same time, which baffles evolutionists, but not creationists. I know what you believe because I learned all about it in School myself. How much time did you spend studying the Creationist side of the story?

    True, Faith requires no evidence, however, my Faith is backed up by the evidence. Evolution is an Atheistic way of trying to explain the Universe without a God and it IS a religion because it requires Faith to due much lacking evidence in many areas.

    Micro Evolution has been observed, but that's not Darwinian Evolution. Macro Evolution has NEVER been observed. You only see examples of Lateral Adaptation or Micro Evolution. It's not the same as one animal kind evolving into another. That has NEVER been observed.

    These so called Vestigial organs are not vestigial. They just can't always explain their function until later. The Appendix is an example of what they used to call Vestigial, but now they know that there is a function. There are many other examples.

    There is a HUGE difference between Micro Evolution and Macro Evolution because Macro Evolution requires an INCREASE in genetic information, but Micro Evolution does not. Big difference. An INCREASE in Genetic Information due to a Mutation has never been observed and even Richard Dawkins himself had to admit this.

    Turn on Tune In Radio, WMUZ and listen to The Bob Dutko Show, M-F from 12pm-4pm. He debates and destroys PHD Evolutionsts on a regular basis. You can even call into his show on Fridays. You should call in and make him look stupid. I would gladly listen.
    Micro and macro evolution are inventions of the Creationists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    Micro and macro evolution are inventions of the Creationists.
    No, they aren't. That's why you don't see missing links between the animal kinds. If evolution were true, there should be more transitional fossils in the record than other fossils, but there aren't any transitional fossils.

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    Rock-dating techniques throw evolution in question


    https://www.wnd.com/2019/09/rock-dat...n-in-question/

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
    Rock-dating techniques throw evolution in question


    https://www.wnd.com/2019/09/rock-dat...n-in-question/
    Like I said, there is a LOT of evidence on the other side. You should at least look at it and have actual reasons for rejecting it.

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    Like I said, there is a LOT of evidence on the other side. You should at least look at it and have actual reasons for rejecting it.
    [sigh]
    I have been looking at the "evidence" for years, and years.

    I don't need a reason to reject the arguments. They simply don't stand up. What you would need to do is give me a reason for accepting them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    [sigh]
    I have been looking at the "evidence" for years, and years.

    I don't need a reason to reject the arguments. They simply don't stand up. What you would need to do is give me a reason for accepting them.
    I thought that's what I was doing. If I can show you that the radio metric dating methods, potassium argon dating and other dating methods are flawed will you consider it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
    I thought that's what I was doing. If I can show you that the radio metric dating methods, potassium argon dating and other dating methods are flawed will you consider it?
    I will go look it up.
    I've seen your sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    I will go look it up.
    I've seen your sources.
    Ok be sure to look up the rocks from Mt. St. Helens, which erupted in the 1980s that were dated with the highest technology of the time in 1996. The scientists weren't told where the rocks came from and the dates that came back were between 500,000 and 2.8 Million years old! Another rock known to be around 50 years old was dated and the scientists didn't know where the rock came from. It came back at 3.5 Million years old. Another rock from 1801 was dated to 1.8 BILLION years old.

    Also, carbon 14 dating, according to evolutionists is no longer measurable past 100,000 years because they say that all of the c-14 would be gone by then and YET every dinosaur bone ever dated by carbon 14 dating came back with measurable c-14 in them. How could that be if they went extinct 65 million years ago as they claim?

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