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    Re: Brett Kavanaugh

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    Hmm, I see the two parties as different sides of the same coin fighting over who has the biggest half of the piece of candy. My philosophy in voting for the last 20 years or so has been to never vote for an incumbent, I don't care what party they are in. I think its stupid to keep voting them in just because they are of a certain party.Do you vote party line?
    Well, I have not been a party line voter in the past.
    But on the national level, I think that's about to change. I've watched our usually independent thinking republican congressmen and Senator fall in line with the thuglicans this last couple of years, and I think it's time to trim that GOP majority back a bit.
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    Re: Brett Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by YZGI View Post
    Hmm, I see the two parties as different sides of the same coin fighting over who has the biggest half of the piece of candy. My philosophy in voting for the last 20 years or so has been to never vote for an incumbent, I don't care what party they are in. I think its stupid to keep voting them in just because they are of a certain party.Do you vote party line?
    Do I vote party line? No, of course not. For example, if a pro-choice incumbent were to be running against an anti choice, anti gay, racist religious nut case well of course I would immediately drop all my values and principles in order to throw the bum out.

    What about you? Do issues, your personal principles and values have nothing to do with how you cast your vote? If not, you may not relate to it but you are an anarchist.

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    Re: Brett Kavanaugh

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    I wonder how you may react if someone accused you of being a Rethuglican (your word), or any other possible untruth.
    How would I react? Haven't run for Supreme Court Justice lately. Therefore, expect as much from me as I would of you. I do, however, expect more of anyone claiming to be a mature, responsible professional. So should you. BTW, your reaction to Rethuglican speaks volumes.

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    Re: Brett Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by AnneBoleyn View Post
    Do I vote party line? No, of course not. For example, if a pro-choice incumbent were to be running against an anti choice, anti gay, racist religious nut case well of course I would immediately drop all my values and principles in order to throw the bum out.

    What about you? Do issues, your personal principles and values have nothing to do with how you cast your vote? If not, you may not relate to it but you are an anarchist.
    Of course issues come into play, but if we keep voting the same people in no matter which party it is we continue down the professional money grubbing good ole boy (girl) system that gets nothing done except spend tax payer money fighting each other and name calling.

    And just for your info,I am an Independant, I am pro-choice, I believe we need national health care, I couldn't care less of anyones sexual preference or religion or lack thereof. I am also for law abiding immigration and am against illegal immigration. I am for fair trade deals, I am for every other nation paying there fair share for NATO. I think before we give billions of dollars to other nations we need to take care of our own, including our citizens who have served in our military.

    I am not a great fan of Trump but he is our President and if nothing else he deserves the respect that should go to the President. I think it's ridiculous the way the media do everything in their power to undermine everything he does. He gets no credit when he does good things for our country.

    Did I forget to say that I did vote for Obama, once.

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    Re: Brett Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by AnneBoleyn View Post
    How would I react? Haven't run for Supreme Court Justice lately. Therefore, expect as much from me as I would of you. I do, however, expect more of anyone claiming to be a mature, responsible professional. So should you. BTW, your reaction to Rethuglican speaks volumes.
    Name calling is neither mature,responsible or professional. Neither is unsubstantiated accusations.

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    Re: Brett Kavanaugh

    I've heard that Trump deserves respect, but I'm not sure how he earned it. He spent about 7 years peddling a racist birther lie about Obama. That alone should disqualify him. The Central Park Five case also follows a similar pattern.

    He's mostly all BS, playing to the Southern Strategy.

    This is a guy who said the election would be rigged, and the result should not be accepted. He lost the popular vote. He joins the ranks of Bush as our second recent non-democratic president. People are cool with gerrymandering. What's 3 million votes after all?

    Meanwhile, his lawyer and campaign manager, as well as others around him, are going to prison. Didn't he promise to hire the smartest people? He says the Mueller probe is a witch Hunt, but it's turned up a bunch of witches.

    As for accomplishments, he's done more harm than good. Aside from picking supreme Court nominees from a sheet of paper given to him, his only significant accomplishment was passing tax reform. Or that's what they called it. It is saddling the country with crippling debt now.

    On top of all this, Trump is the guy scared to release his tax returns, probably for fear they will expose lies and possible crimes. Even though he promised he would after the election. Big red flag.

    But the sore point is he's a guy that brags about grabbing women by the genitals, without even asking. The 19 women who filed complaints towards him are credible. Which is why he's particularly tone deaf to put someone on the court with similar problems.

    As Ford's testimony, it was credible. She specified information that was non public. How did she know that he drank alcohol illegally? His calendar looked like he partied a lot. Parts of Kavanaugh's defense was contradicted by people who knew him. You notice he never took a lie detector test. And the FBI didn't talk to a lot of people.

    All the controversy would have been avoided if they stuck with the 60 vote rule. Instead he's making a huge power grab.

    Personally I just view Trump more like a comedy. A guy BS's his way to the oval office. Would be a great movie. It's all kinda funny in a way, though the joke is on us.

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    Re: Brett Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    I've heard that Trump deserves respect, but I'm not sure how he earned it. He spent about 7 years peddling a racist birther lie about Obama. That alone should disqualify him. The Central Park Five case also follows a similar pattern.

    He's mostly all BS, playing to the Southern Strategy.

    This is a guy who said the election would be rigged, and the result should not be accepted. He lost the popular vote. He joins the ranks of Bush as our second recent non-democratic president. People are cool with gerrymandering. What's 3 million votes after all?

    Meanwhile, his lawyer and campaign manager, as well as others around him, are going to prison. Didn't he promise to hire the smartest people? He says the Mueller probe is a witch Hunt, but it's turned up a bunch of witches.

    As for accomplishments, he's done more harm than good. Aside from picking supreme Court nominees from a sheet of paper given to him, his only significant accomplishment was passing tax reform. Or that's what they called it. It is saddling the country with crippling debt now.

    On top of all this, Trump is the guy scared to release his tax returns, probably for fear they will expose lies and possible crimes. Even though he promised he would after the election. Big red flag.

    But the sore point is he's a guy that brags about grabbing women by the genitals, without even asking. The 19 women who filed complaints towards him are credible. Which is why he's particularly tone deaf to put someone on the court with similar problems.

    As Ford's testimony, it was credible. She specified information that was non public. How did she know that he drank alcohol illegally? His calendar looked like he partied a lot. Parts of Kavanaugh's defense was contradicted by people who knew him. You notice he never took a lie detector test. And the FBI didn't talk to a lot of people.

    All the controversy would have been avoided if they stuck with the 60 vote rule. Instead he's making a huge power grab.

    Personally I just view Trump more like a comedy. A guy BS's his way to the oval office. Would be a great movie. It's all kinda funny in a way, though the joke is on us.

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    I've heard that Trump deserves respect, but I'm not sure how he earned it. He spent about 7 years peddling a racist birther lie about Obama. That alone should disqualify him.
    That and the number of years dodging the draft, which IMO disqualified Bill Clinton. If I bothered I could attack Hillary for similar reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    He's mostly all BS, playing to the Southern Strategy.
    Whatever that is.

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    This is a guy who said the election would be rigged, and the result should not be accepted. He lost the popular vote. He joins the ranks of Bush as our second recent non-democratic president. People are cool with gerrymandering. What's 3 million votes after all?
    He cried and still cries about how he is unfairly treated. He also challenged the popular vote. Seems the two of you fail to recognize the wisdom of our founding fathers in drafting a constitution which allows a system which represents all of America.

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    I've heard that Trump deserves respect, but I'm not sure how he earned it. He spent about 7 years peddling a racist birther lie about Obama. That alone should disqualify him.
    That and the number of years dodging the draft, which IMO disqualified Bill Clinton. If I bothered I could attack Hillary for similar reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    He's mostly all BS, playing to the Southern Strategy.
    Whatever that is.

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    This is a guy who said the election would be rigged, and the result should not be accepted. He lost the popular vote. He joins the ranks of Bush as our second recent non-democratic president. People are cool with gerrymandering. What's 3 million votes after all?
    He cried and still cries about how he is unfairly treated. He also challenged the popular vote. Seems the two of you fail to recognize the wisdom of our founding fathers in draftint a constitution which allows a system which represents all of America.

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    Meanwhile, his lawyer and campaign manager, as well as others around him, are going to prison. Didn't he promise to hire the smartest people? He says the Mueller probe is a witch Hunt, but it's turned up a bunch of witches.

    Meanwhile, his lawyer and campaign manager, as well as others around him, are going to prison. Didn't he promise to hire the smartest people? He says the Mueller probe is a witch Hunt, but it's turned up a bunch of witches.
    Ya ain't leaned about promises?

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    As for accomplishments, he's done more harm than good. Aside from picking supreme Court nominees from a sheet of paper given to him,
    That was part of a promise which he kept, t select a Justice who favore the Constutiion.


    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    his only significant accomplishment was passing tax reform. Or that's what they called it. It is saddling the country with crippling debt now.
    Tax reform was is is still necessary. It has shown that low taxes do prompt investment and job growth. It was just too much.


    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    On top of all this, Trump is the guy scared to release his tax returns, probably for fear they will expose lies and possible crimes. Even though he promised he would after the election. Big red flag.
    Some things are just nobody's business. I spent most of my life as an hourly worker and it didn't take long to under stand why my dad was so private abuot his salary.

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    But the sore point is he's a guy that brags about grabbing women by the genitals, without even asking. The 19 women who filed complaints towards him are credible. Which is why he's particularly tone deaf to put someone on the court with similar problems.
    Kavanaugh ?

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    As Ford's testimony, it was credible. She specified information that was non public. How did she know that he drank alcohol illegally?
    Give it a rest.

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    His calendar looked like he partied a lot. Parts of Kavanaugh's defense was contradicted by people who knew him. You notice he never took a lie detector test. And the FBI didn't talk to a lot of people.
    uh huh

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    All the controversy would have been avoided if they stuck with the 60 vote rule. Instead he's making a huge power grab.
    Who started that?

    Quote Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
    Personally I just view Trump more like a comedy. A guy BS's his way to the oval office. Would be a great movie. It's all kinda funny in a way, though the joke is on us.
    I am no fan of the Don, but I choose not to be obsessed with it.
    Gosh, it would be awful pleasin'
    To reason out the reason
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    Re: Brett Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post

    He cried and still cries about how he is unfairly treated. He also challenged the popular vote. Seems the two of you fail to recognize the wisdom of our founding fathers in drafting a constitution which allows a system which represents all of America.

    .
    But did it? The Constitution originally represented less than half the country, given that women and slaves couldn't vote. It had a mix of really good and bad ideas.

    It's worth thinking about... We place more importance on imaginary boundary lines than we do flesh and blood people.

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    Re: Brett Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post
    That and the number of years dodging the draft, which IMO disqualified Bill Clinton. If I bothered I could attack Hillary for similar reasons.



    Whatever that is.



    He cried and still cries about how he is unfairly treated. He also challenged the popular vote. Seems the two of you fail to recognize the wisdom of our founding fathers in drafting a constitution which allows a system which represents all of America.



    That and the number of years dodging the draft, which IMO disqualified Bill Clinton. If I bothered I could attack Hillary for similar reasons.



    Whatever that is.



    He cried and still cries about how he is unfairly treated. He also challenged the popular vote. Seems the two of you fail to recognize the wisdom of our founding fathers in draftint a constitution which allows a system which represents all of America.



    Ya ain't leaned about promises?



    That was part of a promise which he kept, t select a Justice who favore the Constutiion.




    Tax reform was is is still necessary. It has shown that low taxes do prompt investment and job growth. It was just too much.




    Some things are just nobody's business. I spent most of my life as an hourly worker and it didn't take long to under stand why my dad was so private abuot his salary.



    Kavanaugh ?



    Give it a rest.



    uh huh



    Who started that?



    I am no fan of the Don, but I choose not to be obsessed with it.
    I misspoke, I should have said I respect the office of the Presidency not the man. He is our president and I hope he succeeds and does some good for Americans while he is in there, it seems like the media and left hope he fails so they can make fun of him.

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