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    A great article on Obama

    written by Andrew Sullivan in Newsweek. Andrew Sullivan perhaps can best be described as being politically independent which is why I think the article can grab the attention of many more readers in contrast to authors that tend to be biased...

    Andrew Sullivan: How Obama's Long Game Will Outsmart His Critics
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    A president in the last year of his first term will always get attacked mercilessly by his partisan opponents, and also, often, by the feistier members of his base. And when unemployment is at remarkably high levels, and with the national debt setting records, the criticism will—and should be—even fiercer. But this time, with this president, something different has happened. It’s not that I don’t understand the critiques of Barack Obama from the enraged right and the demoralized left. It’s that I don’t even recognize their description of Obama’s first term in any way. The attacks from both the right and the left on the man and his policies aren’t out of bounds. They’re simply—empirically—wrong.

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    His spending record is also far better than his predecessor’s. Under Bush, new policies on taxes and spending cost the taxpayer a total of $5.07 trillion. Under Obama’s budgets both past and projected, he will have added $1.4 trillion in two terms. Under Bush and the GOP, nondefense discretionary spending grew by twice as much as under Obama. Again: imagine Bush had been a Democrat and Obama a Republican. You could easily make the case that Obama has been far more fiscally conservative than his predecessor—except, of course, that Obama has had to govern under the worst recession since the 1930s, and Bush, after the 2001 downturn, governed in a period of moderate growth. It takes work to increase the debt in times of growth, as Bush did. It takes much more work to constrain the debt in the deep recession Bush bequeathed Obama.

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    What liberals have never understood about Obama is that he practices a show-don’t-tell, long-game form of domestic politics. What matters to him is what he can get done, not what he can immediately take credit for
    "But given the enormity of what he inherited, and given what he explicitly promised, it remains simply a fact that Obama has delivered in a way that the unhinged right and purist left have yet to understand or absorb. Their short-term outbursts have missed Obama’s long game—and why his reelection remains, in my view, as essential for this country’s future as his original election in 2008." is my sentiment exactly

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    Here's a brief interview with Andrew Sullivan on the article Andrew Sullivan on Hardball/ Why are Obama's critics so dumb? - Democratic Underground

    Obama's long game is exactly why I think he'll be the best damn president the US has ever had after 2016

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    Re: A great article on Obama

    Certainly a lot more considered a response than I've been used to in the political arena and, if the figures quoted are accurate, quite a telling point.

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    Re: A great article on Obama

    That's more like it - emotive language designed to manipulate opinion rather than inform.

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    I'm honestly still trying to understand how this propagandist dung heap of an article relates to the links in the original post...

    This link is a sarcastic way of highlighting the garbage that politics have been reduced to isn't it?

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    Re: A great article on Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by K.Snyder View Post
    I'm honestly still trying to understand how this propagandist dung heap of an article relates to the links in the original post...

    This link is a sarcastic way of highlighting the garbage that politics have been reduced to isn't it?
    It has to be related - it mentions his name :-)

    I still think my phrasing was better though

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    Re: A great article on Obama

    The site Lon posted has a good entertainment section.

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    Re: A great article on Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by K.Snyder View Post
    I'm honestly still trying to understand how this propagandist dung heap of an article relates to the links in the original post...

    This link is a sarcastic way of highlighting the garbage that politics have been reduced to isn't it?
    It relates since both authors pieces appear in the "Daily Beast "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    It relates since both authors pieces appear in the "Daily Beast "
    Well at least you can make me laugh Lon

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    Re: A great article on Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
    It has to be related - it mentions his name :-)

    I still think my phrasing was better though
    Oh? Was it the "propagandist dung heap" bit that turned you off Bryn?

    In my defense I did prefer that over "Big steaming, heaping pile of brown nutted horse $#!+!

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