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    Where was Grandpa??

    Does anyone recognize the background in this photo? I know it's a long shot but you never know!

    My maternal grandfather is the man on the left ... I have no idea of the identity of the man on the right.

    I'm speculating the photo was taken some place in southern Europe or northern Africa judging by the trees and architecture. I have pored over what seems like zillions of photos of equestrian statues online with no luck. None had the horse's tail, head or legs all in that position. I never knew there were so many variations on the theme!

    Does the location look at all familiar to any of the travelers here?


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    Here is a clue to one possible candidate:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuno_%C3%81lvares_Pereira

    Statue of D. Nuno Álvares Pereira, next to the Monastery of Batalha
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    I wonder - is there a name for the type of pedestal the statue sits on? Do you know what year the photo was taken?
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    Re: Where was Grandpa??

    That seems to be a pretty unique Pedestal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    Here is a clue to one possible candidate:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuno_%C3%81lvares_Pereira

    Statue of D. Nuno Álvares Pereira, next to the Monastery of Batalha
    Thank you, Lars, that's a very close match but not exact. The horse's tail is different and the legs are positioned with a slight difference. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't in the same area though. Following that lead, I did a search and found a list of equestrian statues in Spain and sometime today I'll take the time to scan though them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahso! View Post
    I wonder - is there a name for the type of pedestal the statue sits on? Do you know what year the photo was taken?
    I'm not sure, Ahso but I think it was probably sometime in the late 1930s to mid 1940s. He joined the Merchant Marines at some point during the war (I don't know if it was before the USA joined or after). I'm guessing that's how he ended up where ever this is although if it is, he must have been on leave.

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    Re: Where was Grandpa??

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=artigas+mo...ages&ia=images

    That's the chap. Not a doubt. Just outside the Radisson in Montivideo's Independence Plaza. The urn holding the bloke on the horse is displayed in the mausoleum beneath the statue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahso! View Post
    I wonder - is there a name for the type of pedestal the statue sits on?
    Bas relief.

    The next question has to be who the third gentleman in the photo is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=artigas+mo...ages&ia=images

    That's the chap. Not a doubt. Just outside the Radisson in Montivideo's Independence Plaza. The urn holding the bloke on the horse is displayed in the mausoleum beneath the statue.

    https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.906...!7i8704!8i4352





    Bas relief.

    The next question has to be who the third gentleman in the photo is.
    That's it!! Thank you!! I wasn't even searching on the correct continent!! I'm in awe.

    I don't have a clue who the man with him is and can't imagine how to find out. Maybe he was a fellow shipman or else Grandpa made a friend while sightseeing.

    The area around the statue has certainly modernized in the intervening 80 years ... no surprises there!

    Thank you again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tabby View Post
    Maybe he was a fellow shipman or else Grandpa made a friend while sightseeing.
    If you'd like to see Montevideo as it was in the thirties, there's a home movie at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WjpF2Ek858

    Only one thing ever happened round those parts, the sinking of the Graf Spee five miles downriver. That was in 1939 which is bang in the middle of your timeframe.

    So, do you know the names of any of the ships he crewed?

    If you feel you can PM me his name too, I can keep that private but it might be on a crew list.

    Oh - those trees you noted. There's 33 of them, one for each of the original liberators of Uruguay in 1830. Presumably they keep spares round the back.
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    Thank you! I don't know the names of any of the ships and I wish I had paid more attention when I was young and all the adults would be sitting around talking about these things. I remember hearing snatches of conversation about his being on a ship that was torpedoed and his being in a life boat with other crew members and their being rescued by another ship and taken to a Red Cross Station.

    I was under the impression that event had occurred in the Mediterranean but between youth, minimal interest at the time and the passing of years, I won't swear to the facts.

    The video was interesting to watch and the statue pops up early on! The city looks like it was as modern as any at the time.

    I notice the women in his photo are wearing coats which made me curious about their seasons. I googled their weather and found this: "In Montevideo, the summers are warm and humid; the winters are cold; and it is wet, windy, and partly cloudy year round. Over the course of the year, the temperature typically varies from 45°F to 80°F and is rarely below 36°F or above 89°F."

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