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    Aggression towards other dogs

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    I have a Border Collie of 18 months.
    We tried to do everything right with him from the start by solializing him with other dogs at clubs etc but
    unfortunately he was attacked by another dog at a class
    and ever since if another dog barks at him he wants to attack them, he gets really wound up when he hears another dog bark.
    he is such a placid dog otherwise and gets on well with our other dogs and is not the top dog. but I can see why he feels he has to stick up for himself when we meet other dogs .................I am thinking he will always be like this now.

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    Re: Aggression towards other dogs

    Quote Originally Posted by Facidaisy
    Hi

    I have a Border Collie of 18 months.
    We tried to do everything right with him from the start by solializing him with other dogs at clubs etc but
    unfortunately he was attacked by another dog at a class
    and ever since if another dog barks at him he wants to attack them, he gets really wound up when he hears another dog bark.
    he is such a placid dog otherwise and gets on well with our other dogs and is not the top dog. but I can see why he feels he has to stick up for himself when we meet other dogs .................I am thinking he will always be like this now.

    Gosh aggression in a border collie is so unusual, my thoughts just keep introducing him to other dogs, and if he gets cranky immediately remove him from from the situation. When he acts good loads of praise and treats. He is not too old yet to be taught. I hope he didn't suffer physical damage from the attack poor pooch.
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    Re: Aggression towards other dogs

    If you were at a class, what did the trainer say?

    This can be controlled with time and training but I wouldn't expect
    your dog to ever really easily make friends.

    You need to teach focus. Borders are exremely smart, and you should
    be able to get good results. If you have a friend or someone with a
    well-behaved dog to work with you, even better. Start by having the
    other dog far enough away to not trigger your dog's response. Then
    practice whatever obedience you can with your dog, the usual sit,
    stay, down, stay is fine. Give treats. LOTS of treats, reserve something
    your dog ONLY gets at this time. A good one I like to use is boiled
    skinless chicken breasts cut up in really small pieces. (Use the tip of
    your little finger as a guide) Reward your dog for all the obedience and
    ignoring the other dog. Do this say in 2 15 minute sessions a day. After
    a few days of this, have your friend move the other dog a bit closer.
    Repeat as often as necessary, and if you have a step where the dog
    starts reacting again, go back to the previous distance and work on
    that again. Whatever you do, DO NOT "baby" your dog with lots of
    pats and "It's alright sweetie's" because that will reinforce the behaviour
    you don't want.

    My girl Tamsen has been attacked 3 times in her life, hurt to the tune
    of largeish vet bills the first 2 times, all off-leash male dogs. She became
    very reactive, essentially a show of force before she thought she might
    get hurt again. Fear aggression to the max. With patience, and with the
    help of her dear gentleman friend "Popsicle" may he rest in peace, she got
    over it. She and Popsicle had many walks side by side while myself and
    "Auntie Pat" talked. So, just to cheer you that it IS possible to get through
    this.

    Good luck, and do let me know how it goes!

    (If you're interested, Popsicle is on Tamen's Dogster page, her "Pup Pal")

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    Re: Aggression towards other dogs

    Thanks

    No he wasn't hurt physically but it gave him trauma.
    The dog who got him was one of the club's best at flyball and when I complained there was reluctance to do anything about it, mine wasn't the first dog to get hurt, so after a few choice words I left but
    there are no other decent classes around here but he will eventually get on with friends dogs, when he has got used to them but any strange dogs and he is wound up again and know if he had chance, he would be in there. especially if they dare bark at him. Which is nearly always what happens.
    He has been neutered.
    The good thing is he is obedient, especially off the lead and will always come back but I constantly worry that if we come across another dog unexpectedly he would ignore me and attack.
    I think what I would like to do now is to give up on his making friends and get him to the stage where he can just ignore other dogs completely as I know he always feels threatened.

    I also have have the choice to put him in kennels for a week early next year.
    Do you think, it would make him worse or better, considering the constant barking that will be going on in there.I don't want to traumatize him further.

    again thank you

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    Re: Aggression towards other dogs

    A lot of people do that, give up on their dogs making friends and I don't
    think it's really a problem for most.

    The kennel thing could probably go either way... you won't be there and
    your dog does pick up things from you. It might be sort of like
    immersion therapy, and the dog will finally give up because the barking
    and commotion is there all the time. I would suggest maybe if you trust
    your kennel operators you talk to them, explain the situation and ask
    their opinion. They might have had experience with this type of thing.

    I've never kenneled Tamsen but I must say, the few times she had to
    spend time at the vet's, she was fine. Even in the waiting room, as
    dog aggressive as she is, she would still lay quietly in a down/stay by
    my side.

    Until her advanced age, though, she never really gave up barking at
    other dogs when she was riding by in the car!

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    Re: Aggression towards other dogs

    thanks again and I will be having a word with the kennels.
    I have 4 dogs so kennel 2 and take 2 on holiday so am still deciding which will be the best thing to do for Bailey our collie.

    Still wouldn't swap him,he is a brilliant dog despite his poblem but will persevere.

    Just been looking at Tamsen, she is a lovely dog and also her friend Popsicle.

    If you are interested my gang are here on



    I doubt it will link so you will have to copy and paste,

    some are much loved passed dogs and the gang now is
    Rosie the terrier, Bailey is the one with the pricked ears (bless) Indy the old fella and Lily (English setter) the newest arrival who is now 6 months.

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    Re: Aggression towards other dogs

    LOVE your furkids! Thanks so much for sharing... can't decide which I like
    most but the one of the pup on (Mom's?) lap is priceless!

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    Re: Aggression towards other dogs

    Good advice here, Val, I especially like the "immersion therapy" idea. I'll be interested to see how that situation works out.

    Hi Facidaisy! I'm BabyRider, (call me BR) and Val and I usually try to give advice on pets here in FG, as we've both got lots of experience working with animals. I can't think of a thing to add to what Val's told you, but if I do, I'll be sure to post. Going to check out your kids right now. Welcome to FG! Hope you find more stuff to interest you here!

    Oh, Val...what sort of heartworm preventative do you have Tamsen on and do you keep her on it year round? (Actually, do you even use heartworm preventative in CA?)
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    Re: Aggression towards other dogs

    Quote Originally Posted by valerie
    LOVE your furkids! Thanks so much for sharing... can't decide which I like
    most but the one of the pup on (Mom's?) lap is priceless!

    Do you mean the one of Lily, the English setter? That was my favorite!! What a beautiful dog!!! I just adore the breed. <big sigh>
    I hope you cherish this sweet way of life, and I hope you know that it comes with a price.
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    Re: Aggression towards other dogs

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    Tamsen was always on year-round Heartguard until about a month ago.
    I consulted with my vet and we together made the decision to forgo it
    now, because Tamsen's age and limited exposure to outdoors just seemed
    to not be worth it. For her. I'm not advocating this as a a way to proceed
    for ANYONE else. But Tamsen is coming up on 13, and for a purebred gsd
    that is up there, and she shows definite signs of decline. The vet pointed
    out that even if she were to be bitten by an infected mosquito, it would
    be approx. 6 months before she showed signs of an infestation. Sad as it
    is for Paul and I to face, we realize that she might head to the bridge
    before that time due to other causes.

    I am religious about keeping on top of the standing water around here.
    I even empty the birdbaths every 3 days or so, more in the hot summer
    days.

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