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    Second hand smoke.

    Second hand smoke is killing people.
    Not!!!
    Wake up world!!!
    Busses automobiles airplanes trucks and SUV's all pollute our atmosphere.
    Bbq's and camp fires, gas grills and ATV's.
    All of these things belch tons of hydrocarbons and carcinogens into our atmosphere every second aroud the world.
    Not to mention the airliners.
    A 747 jumbo jet starts off with over a ton of fuel, which is mostly gone after a trans continental flight.
    So what is truly killing people is pollution.
    Not second hand smoke.
    Driving a small car belches out five cartons worth of second hand smoke just starting it
    So how much did the oil companys pay the tabacco industry to spread a little lie to hide the ungodly truth.
    And if you are holier than a smoker like me.
    How far did you drive today.


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    Re: Second hand smoke.

    Quote Originally Posted by metalstorm
    Second hand smoke is killing people.
    Not!!!
    http://cancercontrol.cancer.gov/tcrb/monographs/10/

    The estimates are at the end of the Executive Summary.

    Just the heart risks alone, for non-smokers, beat car fatalities.

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    Re: Second hand smoke.

    Life is more comfortable for me when I am not around smokers.

    When someone smokes in our house, or near me, I cough.

    Coughing is not fun.

    When it was acceptable for people to smoke everywhere, you would have thought I was a hardcore smoker myself the way I coughed.

    I like the new order of NO SMOKING.

    Would I like the air I breathe cleaned up more? Oh yes! However, improvements in living are made ONE STEP AT A TIME................

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    Re: Second hand smoke.

    You should be free to smoke, just as I'm free to not like it.

    I don't like anti-smoking legislation any more than you do.

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    In the next town, a no smoking law has gone into effect for all businesses. You should see all the lease/for sale signs going up on the main street. It is unreal! Now I don't smoke myself nor do I want to smell it while I am eating, but I do think the law should be amended...for example why not allow the smokers to smoke...say after a certain time? After 8 or 9 pm....and I myself am a lot more tolerant of the smoke at that time myself if I've had a drink or two!!!!
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    Being a smoker myself, I think these new laws are really going too far. I do however understand where the non-smoker is coming from. But what makes one person's rights any more important than another's? I don't smoke where I'm not supposed to. I even don't smoke around non-smokers where it IS permitted. I agree with the person who said places are going out of business. I think they could just have separate rooms in establishments. They're making us feel like leppars. Where are my freedoms??

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    Re: Second hand smoke.

    Quote Originally Posted by observer1
    Being a smoker myself, I think these new laws are really going too far. I do however understand where the non-smoker is coming from. But what makes one person's rights any more important than another's? I don't smoke where I'm not supposed to. I even don't smoke around non-smokers where it IS permitted. I agree with the person who said places are going out of business. I think they could just have separate rooms in establishments. They're making us feel like leppars. Where are my freedoms??
    One of the basics of any system of permissive law (you can do anything that isn't illegal, as opposed to you can only do things that are expressly legal) is that you do no harm to others. The earlier health link shows the extent of damage caused to others by second hand smoke. Making it illegal to expose others is an extension of the area of the law that began with prohibiting murder. The question of where to draw the line is a matter for voters, if you think you live in a democracy.

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    I've got nothing against lepers. I was one myself. I can (grudgingly) understand and minimally support banning smoking in gov't buildings, but business is business. If a businessman chooses to woo a non-leper clientelle, I say go for it. But don't legislate the practice. If non-lepers don't want to be around lepers, let them find a different establishment.

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    Re: Second hand smoke.

    Quote Originally Posted by observer1
    Being a smoker myself, I think these new laws are really going too far. I do however understand where the non-smoker is coming from. But what makes one person's rights any more important than another's? I don't smoke where I'm not supposed to. I even don't smoke around non-smokers where it IS permitted. I agree with the person who said places are going out of business. I think they could just have separate rooms in establishments. They're making us feel like leppars. Where are my freedoms??
    Places here have had separate smoking/non-smoking areas (even separate rooms) for years, and it just doesn't work out. The smoke eventually permeates an entire place and pretty quickly. The waitresses themselves may not want to be subjected to it either. Observer1, how would you feel about my earlier idea about smoking permitted after a certain time?
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