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    The USA is not as divided as some would lead you to believe

    They say 50%+ voted for Bush.

    But really since only about half the poplulation votes it is more like 25% voted for Bush.

    Kerry probably got 24% or so. So the rest don't care as much.

    The way I see it is 20% will just about always vote Rebublican. 20% just about always Democrat. The other 10% make the real decision. And a 1 or 2 percent vote for the tangental parties.

    Anyone agree/disagree. The % are just rough estimates so if you think 22% Rep and 19% democrat you basically agree.

    I think the retoric of our country divided is exagurated.

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    Re: The USA is not as divided as some would lead you to believe

    Maybe a little bit divided when you look at raw population numbers - but not so much by region. (Birds of a feather flock together? ) The red/blue map says it all.

    I know I don't share the values of the majority of people who live in San Francisco or Massachusetts. I do know that I live in a region that shares my values.



    Quote Originally Posted by LottomagicZ4941
    They say 50%+ voted for Bush.

    But really since only about half the population votes it is more like 25% voted for Bush.

    Kerry probably got 24% or so. So the rest don't care as much.

    The way I see it is 20% will just about always vote Republican. 20% just about always Democrat. The other 10% make the real decision. And a 1 or 2 percent vote for the tangential parties.

    Anyone agree/disagree. The % are just rough estimates so if you think 22% Rep and 19% democrat you basically agree.

    I think the rhetoric of our country divided is exaggerated.
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    Re: The USA is not as divided as some would lead you to believe

    And if you really want to get an insightful look at what the real makeup of this country is - take a look at the county-by-county voting results.

    You can see that the large urban areas vote very differently from the rest of the country.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tombstone
    Maybe a little bit divided when you look at raw population numbers - but not so much by region. (Birds of a feather flock together? ) The red/blue map says it all.

    I know I don't share the values of the majority of people who live in San Francisco or Massachusetts. I do know that I live in a region that shares my values.
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    Re: The USA is not as divided as some would lead you to believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Tombstone
    And if you really want to get an insightful look at what the real makeup of this country is - take a look at the county-by-county voting results.

    You can see that the large urban areas vote very differently from the rest of the country.
    do you have a link to the original of that county-by-county map? it comes up rather small for me, i'd like to see if i can find a larger one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anastrophe
    do you have a link to the original of that county-by-county map? it comes up rather small for me, i'd like to see if i can find a larger one.
    I'm looking for the larger version myself. This thumbnail had a redirect to USA Today. I went there - but could not find it.

    If you find the larger version, would you post it here?

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    Re: The USA is not as divided as some would lead you to believe

    Found it.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic.../countymap.htm

    Use dropdown box on right to focus in on states.


    Check out how influential Alameda County and Los Angeles was for tipping CA against Bush.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...i=G&tf=l&sp=CA
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    Re: The USA is not as divided as some would lead you to believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Tombstone
    Found it.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic.../countymap.htm

    Use dropdown box on right to focus in on states.


    Check out how influential Alameda County and Los Angeles was for tipping CA against Bush.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...i=G&tf=l&sp=CA
    found a good, large map myself, along with comparison to 2000 map:

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/

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    Re: The USA is not as divided as some would lead you to believe

    I thought it interesting, that two large newspapers (Chicago and Washington post) came on record as saying that they were out of touch with America. That indeed, as Democrats they felt surely all people would hold their views. They felt that America has said that it wants restraint in certain social issues and that democrats will have to re-think what it is they represent in terms of reaching a higher political office.

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    Re: The USA is not as divided as some would lead you to believe

    Quote Originally Posted by gabrell
    I thought it interesting, that two large newspapers (Chicago and Washington post) came on record as saying that they were out of touch with America. That indeed, as Democrats they felt surely all people would hold their views. They felt that America has said that it wants restraint in certain social issues and that democrats will have to re-think what it is they represent in terms of reaching a higher political office.
    I have a simple one-step plan for them. Read JFK's (John F. Kennedy) speeches having to do with government, business, and taxation.

    John Kennedy's (Democrat) policies and beliefs = moderate Repulican platform of today.

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    Re: The USA is not as divided as some would lead you to believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by LottomagicZ4941
    They say 50%+ voted for Bush.

    But really since only about half the poplulation votes it is more like 25% voted for Bush.

    Kerry probably got 24% or so. So the rest don't care as much.

    The way I see it is 20% will just about always vote Rebublican. 20% just about always Democrat. The other 10% make the real decision. And a 1 or 2 percent vote for the tangental parties.

    Anyone agree/disagree. The % are just rough estimates so if you think 22% Rep and 19% democrat you basically agree.

    I think the retoric of our country divided is exagurated.
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