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    No more smoking in mental hospitals.

    Beginning November 1st, our local mental hospital will be a smoke free facility. That means no more smoking for inmates, as well as employees.
    This is really mean. I cant believe that a person who is dealing with all kinds of issues is going to be forced to go cold turkey. No cigs for detox patients eithet. the situation is going to be mahem, Maybe when they tell us we arent allowed to smoke in our homes, we will all realize that we are living in a police state. But then, it will be too late.

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    That is terrible.A lot of these people will have their stress levels added to,and will probably discharge themselves.I sometimes wonder what planet the powers that be are on.

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    I spoke to 2 administrators from the hospital last night. They are anticipating an increase in sedation medications, and also for patients in the detox program to just leave. They cannott handle getting off drugs and or alcohol, and cigarettes at the same time. The government is taking away our right to choose and forcing their will upon us. Next will be.... getting arrested if you smoke inyour own home. They do not the army of clones they are turning us into to be defective in any way. Since our country cant seem to provide avenues of medical coverage to our citizens... they are eliminating one practice that affects health. But its kind of like throwing the baby out with the bath water/

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    Re: No more smoking in mental hospitals.

    I am totally in favour of the smoking bans. As someone who suffered from chronic asthma (under control now) I was very limited to the places I could go without having to carry my nebuliser with me. If I was forced to share a space with someone who was smoking, then it would result in a severe attack and a course of predniselone (steroids)

    Mental patients are given counselling as practice, so whilst they may find it stressful they are in the ideal situation to have this managed with counselling and medication, rather than just going cold turkey. They will no doubt have all kinds of nicotine replacement therapy available to them.

    In addition, surely the reduction in smokers will lead to a reduction in smoking related illnesses, and a reduction in the strain on the NHS!!!!!

    Of course this is only mon avis.

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    Re: No more smoking in mental hospitals.

    Quote Originally Posted by weeder View Post
    Beginning November 1st, our local mental hospital will be a smoke free facility. That means no more smoking for inmates, as well as employees.
    This is really mean. I cant believe that a person who is dealing with all kinds of issues is going to be forced to go cold turkey. No cigs for detox patients eithet. the situation is going to be mahem, Maybe when they tell us we arent allowed to smoke in our homes, we will all realize that we are living in a police state. But then, it will be too late.
    Apparently, that time has already cometh....

    I posted an article a few months ago about a couple of states (California and Michigan I think...) trying out having smoke free apartments/condos.

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    Re: No more smoking in mental hospitals.

    Just wait until our goverment starts to place restrictions on FORNICATION.
    Where you can fornicate and when... With whom, and on what days..... Then all of the people who were so unfeeling regarding the rights of smokers will sing a different tune. Heres a good one.. How about forced sterilization for undesireables??? Undesireable being catogorized by income.. education..
    maybe even color. The drop in pregnancys among teenagers would certainly result in less expenditure of our social services departments.

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    Re: No more smoking in mental hospitals.

    I really don't think it will be going that far.

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    Re: No more smoking in mental hospitals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    I am totally in favour of the smoking bans. As someone who suffered from chronic asthma (under control now) I was very limited to the places I could go without having to carry my nebuliser with me. If I was forced to share a space with someone who was smoking, then it would result in a severe attack and a course of predniselone (steroids)

    Mental patients are given counselling as practice, so whilst they may find it stressful they are in the ideal situation to have this managed with counselling and medication, rather than just going cold turkey. They will no doubt have all kinds of nicotine replacement therapy available to them.

    In addition, surely the reduction in smokers will lead to a reduction in smoking related illnesses, and a reduction in the strain on the NHS!!!!!

    Of course this is only mon avis.
    When I was working in mental health, there was a separate smoking room in the psychiatric ward to ensure that smokers didn't affect the health of others. Now that the health trusts have implemented the no smoking policy on hospital grounds, I don't know if this room will have disappeared.

    I do know that one of the general hospitals in the next county have recently reinstated a smoking "shed" and that patients at the hospital where I'm working temporarily can smoke outside the building at the discretion of the ward managers, if they are terminally ill or have received distressing news. However, they must also receive information on how to give up smoking.

    We had a discussion recently on here about the costs to the NHS of smoking- related illnesses. I can't remember the figures but the revenue raised in tax on tobacco is several billions more than the costs in treating smoking-related illnesses. I think it was Bill Sykes who commented that everyone's taxes would have to be raised considerably to counteract the deficit.
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    Re: No more smoking in mental hospitals.

    Quote Originally Posted by weeder View Post
    Just wait until our goverment starts to place restrictions on FORNICATION.
    Where you can fornicate and when... With whom, and on what days..... Then all of the people who were so unfeeling regarding the rights of smokers will sing a different tune. Heres a good one.. How about forced sterilization for undesireables??? Undesireable being catogorized by income.. education..
    maybe even color. The drop in pregnancys among teenagers would certainly result in less expenditure of our social services departments.
    There are already restrictions on fornication... or did you not know that you're not allowed to have sex in mental institutions, the work place...er... libraries...... whilst driving a car.........

    Instead of forced sterilisation for 'undesirables' (your term, not mine) I would suggest spending more at the education end, would result in less spend by social services.

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    Re: No more smoking in mental hospitals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theia View Post
    When I was working in mental health, there was a separate smoking room in the psychiatric ward to ensure that smokers didn't affect the health of others. Now that the health trusts have implemented the no smoking policy on hospital grounds, I don't know if this room will have disappeared.

    I do know that one of the general hospitals in the next county have recently reinstated a smoking "shed" and that patients at the hospital where I'm working temporarily can smoke outside the building at the discretion of the ward managers, if they are terminally ill or have received distressing news. However, they must also receive information on how to give up smoking.

    We had a discussion recently on here about the costs to the NHS of smoking- related illnesses. I can't remember the figures but the revenue raised in tax on tobacco is several billions more than the costs in treating smoking-related illnesses. I think it was Bill Sykes who commented that everyone's taxes would have to be raised considerably to counteract the deficit.
    Most businesses and some hospitals have provided smoking units off the main premises, but they must not be in the path of any person who does not purposefully mean to go there.

    I work for a Clinical Research Organisation, and we have NOT provided a smoking area for employees, but we are working with the NHS and a pharmaceutical company to provide nicotine replacement therapy and counselling to those who need it. This is at great cost to the company, but we could not justifiably support smokers when so much of our research is in respiratory ilnesses.

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