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    May The Dalai Lama Forgive Me...

    ...for my ignorance, but a question just arose regarding his person.

    I was thinking about the Dalai Lama and how his profound thoughts might occur to him then thought "hey, what the hell is he doing with a 'him' anyway?"

    If the Buddhists seek to destroy the ego and 'self' and the Dalai Lama is enlightened, then why does he keep coming back as himself? He identifies himself at a young age and is immediately rushed off to be trained and tutored so he doesn't have to wade through all the confusing crap from square one again... from what I understand. That sounds pretty fluffy. I can believe that he has identified himself adequately using various signs but... what happened to the egoless thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by koan View Post
    If the Buddhists seek to destroy the ego and 'self' and the Dalai Lama is enlightened, then why does he keep coming back as himself?
    It's a point he addresses in his FAQ at dalailama.com (from anyone else you'd think that was a joke, eh?):
    We believe that there are four types of rebirth.

    One is the common type wherein, a being is helpless to determine his or her rebirth, but only reincarnates in dependence on the nature of past actions.

    The opposite is that of an entirely enlightened Buddha, who simply manifests a physical form to help others. In this case, it is clear that the person is Buddha.

    A third is one who, due to past spiritual attainment, can choose, or at least influence, the place and situation of rebirth.

    The fourth is called a blessed manifestation. In this the person is blessed beyond his normal capacity to perform helpful functions, such as teaching religion. For this last type of birth, the person’s wishes in previous lives to help others must have been very strong. They obtain such empowerment.

    Though some seem more likely than others, I cannot definitely say which I am.
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    Re: May The Dalai Lama Forgive Me...

    It makes sense that he wouldn't say which he is as it would sound egotistical

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    Re: May The Dalai Lama Forgive Me...

    wow those llama's are much more cleverer than say camels or giraffes










    sorry that is bad

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    Re: May The Dalai Lama Forgive Me...

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    wow those llama's are much more cleverer than say camels or giraffes










    sorry that is bad
    It's probably better than the musical: Hello Dalai Lama

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    Re: May The Dalai Lama Forgive Me...

    would it be because other humans can relate to him that way. That it's more for them than for him perhaps?

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    Re: May The Dalai Lama Forgive Me...

    Theoretically, he doesn't need to be reborn but he has done as an act of sacrifice to help others.

    Practically, if he has destroyed his ego there is not an ego or 'self' to be reborn... it's just a picky point of what it is meant asked by someone who doesn't completely understand what is meant by eliminating the ego completely. How complete is complete?

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    Re: May The Dalai Lama Forgive Me...

    Quote Originally Posted by koan View Post
    ...for my ignorance, but a question just arose regarding his person.

    I was thinking about the Dalai Lama and how his profound thoughts might occur to him then thought "hey, what the hell is he doing with a 'him' anyway?"

    If the Buddhists seek to destroy the ego and 'self' and the Dalai Lama is enlightened, then why does he keep coming back as himself? He identifies himself at a young age and is immediately rushed off to be trained and tutored so he doesn't have to wade through all the confusing crap from square one again... from what I understand. That sounds pretty fluffy. I can believe that he has identified himself adequately using various signs but... what happened to the egoless thing?


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    Nomad

    I do like that answer.

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