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    Cap and Trade?

    These systems draw on the power of the marketplace to reduce emissions in a cost-effective and flexible manner. In practice, cap-and-trade systems create a financial incentive for emission reductions by assigning a cost to polluting. First, an environmental regulator establishes a “cap” that limits emissions from a designated group of polluters, such as power plants, to a level lower than their current emissions. The emissions allowed under the new cap are then divided up into individual permits—usually equal to one ton of pollution—that represent the right to emit that amount.
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    Why does everybody (it seems) criticize USA for not signing on to the Kyoto Agreement? Our gov't doesn't own or run any industries. The US industries that pollute to this degree are primarily multi-national.

    Make the polluters, the corporations themselves, sign an agreement. If they refuse, refuse to let them into your country. Case solved. Ya'll can even link in their behavior in the US if you want. Stop trying to force our gov't to be like yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accountable View Post
    These systems draw on the power of the marketplace to reduce emissions in a cost-effective and flexible manner. In practice, cap-and-trade systems create a financial incentive for emission reductions by assigning a cost to polluting. First, an environmental regulator establishes a “cap” that limits emissions from a designated group of polluters, such as power plants, to a level lower than their current emissions. The emissions allowed under the new cap are then divided up into individual permits—usually equal to one ton of pollution—that represent the right to emit that amount.
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    Why does everybody (it seems) criticize USA for not signing on to the Kyoto Agreement? Our gov't doesn't own or run any industries. The US industries that pollute to this degree are primarily multi-national.

    Make the polluters, the corporations themselves, sign an agreement. If they refuse, refuse to let them into your country. Case solved. Ya'll can even link in their behavior in the US if you want. Stop trying to force our gov't to be like yours.
    The truth is that if the USA cut all of it's polluting activities to zero, it would have a miniscule impact on global pollution. We here seem to focus on the global problem as if it were a US problem and while we certainly contribute to the global problem nothing we can do ourselves will solve it. So if you are worried about global warming and water from the artic is creeping into your backyard, talk to the world especially, China, India, many places in South America, etc.

    The abuses of industrialized nations over the previous century should have been well understood and corrected by now out side of those nations yet, in the quest to enter the 21st century those mistakes are being made all over again and the excuse is that they are rapidly developing nations. Ok, but is that an excuse?
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    When the G.w. fad has weaned(because it is only a fad), like bell bottom jeans and the global cooling scare of the late 70's did, will we get a free BBQ from the government to help prosper the economy and food industry that is now suffering, like our recent economic stimulis checks that helped increase my stock portfolio....????

    The Cap & Trade bill failed this week and is not likely to rise again soon, at least until next year........ Unless the Great Magic *****, Bbbbbarack Husseinnnnnnnn Ooooobabma is elected............................ Then we will have no extra money to even eat at a BBQ, it will all go to the government and the proven failed ideology of the socialist lib's from the past 40 yrs, that we all have to endure, and pay for the next 4-8 yrs, probably longer..............

    Cap and trade just means "screw the people", because we are the ones who will end up paying for it all........ Putting tax or environmental presure on big compnay's on;y forces them to pass that expence on to us, the people who buy those products.............

    When the government proposes "cap and trade" on emisions, they REALLY are proposing "taking more money from YOUR pocketbook", because we are the ones who will pay for it, NOT big business.......


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    Other gov'ts can meddle in corporate business, but ours need to KEEP OUT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by QUINNSCOMMENTARY View Post
    The truth is that if the USA cut all of it's polluting activities to zero, it would have a miniscule impact on global pollution.
    On the other hand, the USA's greenhouse emissions are about 20% of the world's emissions, so if that were cut to zero, it would have a very significant impact on global warming.

    Quote Originally Posted by QUINNSCOMMENTARY View Post
    We here seem to focus on the global problem as if it were a US problem and while we certainly contribute to the global problem nothing we can do ourselves will solve it. So if you are worried about global warming and water from the artic is creeping into your backyard, talk to the world especially, China, India, many places in South America, etc.
    This is the thinking behind international agreements such as Kyoto.
    Quote Originally Posted by QUINNSCOMMENTARY View Post
    The abuses of industrialized nations over the previous century should have been well understood and corrected by now out side of those nations yet, in the quest to enter the 21st century those mistakes are being made all over again and the excuse is that they are rapidly developing nations. Ok, but is that an excuse?
    China makes the opposite argument: The industrialised nations have brought the world to this disaster with their economic development. Should they not bear the additional cost of making the currently developing nations non-polluting?

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