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    Re: Some new articles about Global Warming

    It's kinda funny reading these arguments about global warming, oppps, thats politically incorrect now, it's now called climate change, so the enviro-nuts can keep the masses hysterical and giving up they're money and freedoms of choice no matter whether it cools or warms around us........ LOL, and they darn well know it's going to eventually do one or the other don't they..!!

    I find it ironic that people are so concerned with a species like humans, that if each one on the planet was given 1000 square feet to live in, would all fit in the state of Texas, yes, every person on the globe could fit into the state of Texas if given a 1000 sq. ft. piece of ground, or if given a 4 sq. ft. piece of groud to be counted on, could all fit into the size area of a medium city anywhere in the world............. Lol, humans are such a small part of the planets ecosystem, yet what you and I see in the media, and all of the other inputs we inhale into our beings each day make it sound like we are the biggest force in the universe...? There are even scientists saying that humans are poluting the entire universe now by exploring it, and even by looking into it with telescopes, that somehow now it's been soiled...?

    There is such a pathetic part of the human race that thinks this way, it's just astounding to read this nonsense over and over, and the tainted, distorted way the forces we see and read and listen to each day make us think about the world we all live in....


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    Re: Some new articles about Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Cobra View Post
    I agree with the 30 feet for CO2. I think that should be 30 miles. A seroius mistake. Now the CO2 at 30 ft might be right. Bryson just died the 11th. He may have been senile when he said it, confucing facts.
    And it should be one quarter or three fifths, not one one thousandth.

    But the key difference between water and CO2 is that CO2 endures in the atmosphere. About half the CO2 ever emitted by human activity remains in the atmosphere, so it changes the climate for centuries.

    Water remains in the atmosphere about a week. Emitting it doesn't change the climate, it just makes it rain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Cobra View Post
    They really have the wool pulled over your eyes. The IPCC is a political body of nations, many hostile to the USA. They can peer review anything with activism and punditry.
    I can only suggest you read some peer reviewed literature on the subject. I seems that you believe that the truth is to be found on political blogs rather than scientific papers.

    This one is pretty famous. You could start there.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Cobra View Post
    That cannot be true. If it was, why have we been cooling since 2004?
    Time periods of less than about 20 or 30 years (which represent about 0.4 or 0.6K at the current rate of warming) are affected by other things than the greenhouse effect, and the signal would be blurred at that scale.

    Still it is not true that we have been cooling since 2004. NASA GISS data puts 2005 as the hottest year on record, and 2005, 2006 and 2007 as all warmer than 2004.



    The Hadley centre data has 2005 as warmer than 2004, but 2006 and 2007 cooler.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Cobra View Post
    And 1000 years ago, the best minds in the world thought the world was flat. They were more than fairly confident. They were absolutely confident.
    Well you're mistaken. 1000 years ago, no cosmographer worthy of note had called into question the sphericality of the earth for hundreds of years.
    But that has no influence on the results of studies today. Greenhouse gasses trap heat, a result of optics. We've increased the greenhouse gas concentration, and this can be measured and attributed. It is getting warmer.

    Not that hard to understand.

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    Re: Some new articles about Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Cobra View Post
    You will change your mind as the years go by as the earth doesn't warm with the CO2 trends.
    Not very likely. It would be the first time for at least 420 million years.

    Write up by Yale news:
    Greenhouse Gas Effect Consistent Over 420 Million Years.
    ...This study confirms that in the Earth’s past 420 million years, each doubling of atmospheric CO2 translates to an average global temperature increase of about 3° Celsius...

    The paper:
    Climate sensitivity constrained by CO2 concentrations over the past 420 million years (Dana L. Royer, Robert A. Berner & Jeffrey Park, NATURE,Vol 446, 29 March 2007)
    ...We conclude that a climate sensitivity greater than 1.5°C has probably been a robust feature of the Earth’s climate system over the past 420 million years, regardless of temporal scaling. ...

    So I tend to expect that you might be mistaken on that prediction.

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    Re: Some new articles about Global Warming

    Wow, I just received a "happy birthday" message. I even forgot I subscribes here, and eight years later, this is the last thread I responded to...

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    Re: Some new articles about Global Warming

    Hi Cobra.

    I received a message that this thread had been replied to eight years later.

    How have your last 8 years been?

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    Re: Some new articles about Global Warming

    Interesting to pull this thread up from the past and read the comments from the perspective of eight years later.
    Since 2008, the average global temperatures have made new records nearly every year.

    The CO2 and Methane concentrations in the atmosphere, likewise, have reached records never before recorded.
    And in the US, still, Congress waffles.
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    Re: Some new articles about Global Warming

    Well January was mad hot, but February was completely nuts.



    This jump looks bigger than '98

    The Satellite temperature measurements agree:


    But HadCRU doesn't have Feb up yet.

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    Re: Some new articles about Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Bored_Wombat View Post
    Well January was mad hot, but February was completely nuts.



    This jump looks bigger than '98

    The Satellite temperature measurements agree:


    But HadCRU doesn't have Feb up yet.
    The trend line is certainly clear from those graphs but that last spike is, as you say, nuts.

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    Re: Some new articles about Global Warming

    And from the Arctic Sea Ice measurements, today is the least amount of Arctic sea ice ever seen on any day in March.

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    Re: Some new articles about Global Warming

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    The northern summer sea ice loss is going to be the first high cost high casualty impact, unless there's something nasty coming quicker that we've missed.

    It's got that horrible positive feedback from the extent, but the volume is dropping pretty much steadily, and it's 2/3rds gone since 1980:


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