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    This Post Is To Reveal The Facts About A Much Controversial And Disputed Subject , The Beginning And Just Who Recorded The Actual Beginning And From When . What Point In Time And Which Place Did All Religions Get Their Concept Of A Beginning ;

    Because There Are Many Stages Of Beginnig Or Creation . The Most Commonly Accepted Story Is The Western World Story As Found In Their English Translations Of The Bible , And Lately English Translation Of The Koran , Who Seem To Feed The Hungry Minds Of The Westerneers ,

    Who Are In Constant Pursuit Of Identity , Being The Melting Pot Of Many Nations And Nationalities Stripped Of Their True Identity , So We Will Begin By Addressing This Concept .

    Ques ; Does God Have A Beginnig ?

    Ans ; Yes . God's Beginning Is With Each Religious Denomination Or Sect , For Instance , Allah Is Declared The One And Only God Through The Declaration Of The Islamic Faith . When Muhammad , Who Was Born In 570 A.D. And Died In The Year 632 A.D.

    In Arabia Made An Islamic Declaration Of Faith That '' There Is No God But Allah '' , That Declaration Was The Birth Of The Allah Concept As Taugh In Islam , When Moses Declares In His Question, '' Who Should I Say Sent Me ? ( Exodus 3 ; 13 ) .

    And The God Of The Jewish Torah Answer , '' I Am That I Am '' ( Exodus 3 ; 14 ) , ( Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh ) < aramic , Then He Declares The Jewish Concept Of God . In The Bible God Enter As Eloheem First In Genesis 1 ; 1 , Then Becomes Yahweh Eloheem ( Genesis 2;4

    Onto Just Yahweh ( Genesis 4 ; 26 ) And Even Onto Adonia ( Genesis 18 ; 3 ) , A Title Also Used By Human Beings ( Genesis 15 ; 2 ) . This Growing Process From Plural To Singular Establishes The Birth Of Each Of The God Concepts Of Judaism In The Torah ,

    Though He Has Many Other Names There . These Are The Basic Pricipals . Now For The Christians . Who Choose To Use Greek And Latin ; Two Languages That Jesus The Christ Did Not Speak . They Took On The Same Principle Of Judaism And Used Theos < greek

    God , Kurios < greek , Lord Or Despotes < greek , And Dios < greek While Each Claim That The God That Represent Them By Whichever Name They Call On . To Use According To Whichever Language They Chose . Was The Very God Of The Beginning Of Creation .

    All The While , Their Books , Scriptures , Scrolls Or Tablets Were Written Many Thousand Of Years . After The Fact . The Fact Is . That Their God Has Its Origin With The Birth Of Each Of Their Religions . The Same Will Apply To ; Hinduism . Buddhism , Seikism , Baha'ism .

    Which Are Religions To House Their God Concept . There Would Be No God . So In This Sense , God Has A Beginning , Or As Each Of You Come To Know Of God That Is His Or Her Beginning . Or At Least To Each Person .

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    Re: The Beginning

    That describes the moments of self-revelation well. How about the death of God? Zeus is a revelation of God some time in the past but who believes in Zeus any longer? Did Zeus die? Or is Zeus still there to be worshipped? What happened to Zeus during the centuries when nobody was burning offerings to him on his altars?

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    Re: The Beginning

    Ques ; Does God Have A Beginning ?



    Think on this: If God had a beginning, would there not be an end too?


    I think much of what is God is just part of the Mystery which people of faith accept and cannot expain.


    Why is it that we always try to put God into our limited view and knowledge of things........... Is this not limiting an unlimited God................

    My God is a God of abundance and is outside the realm of what I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    That describes the moments of self-revelation well. How about the death of God? Zeus is a revelation of God some time in the past but who believes in Zeus any longer? Did Zeus die? Or is Zeus still there to be worshipped? What happened to Zeus during the centuries when nobody was burning offerings to him on his altars?


    Thank you for your input .

    What know about Greek Mythology -- '' Myth '' Which according to Webster's New World Dictionary is ; A word legend, A traditional story of unknown authorship , Serving usually to explain some phenomenon of nature , The origin of man , Or the customs , Religious rites , Etc Of people '' Actually mytholgy is myths or stories invented to cover up explanation of the truth which are usually tradition basis , But serving usually to explain some . extremely extraordinary occurrences of natures ,
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    But Zeus was the only revelation of God to the Greeks. God's Beginning Is With Each Religious Denomination Or Sect. Are the Greeks not a denomination? Or were they shown nothing of God? Or did God show himself to the Greeks as something else?

    Maybe some societies have never been shown God at all and they've just guessed blindly.

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    But Zeus was the only revelation of God to the Greeks. God's Beginning Is With Each Religious Denomination Or Sect. Are the Greeks not a denomination? Or were they shown nothing of God? Or did God show himself to the Greeks as something else?

    Maybe some societies have never been shown God at all and they've just guessed blindly.


    My overstaning of the greek's they also created their own god's also , Meaning another '' Myth '' I'm really speaking of religion , Three basic instritutionalized religions being ; Judaism , Christism , Muhammadism . And the many denominations , And sects , That branched off from these organized religions . < In Post Started By < Rjwould > Name Who Wrote The Bible ( Post Number 33-35 ) I gave some overstand of the Three Religion .
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    So there's the Monotheists to whom God has revealed himself and there's all the rest who stayed ignorant and had to make do with their own invented gods.

    Did they all go to waste, those people with no revelation? Or are they just as good as the Monotheists who know God?

    Adding them all up, there have been more ignorant of the One God than were given revelation.

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    So there's the Monotheists to whom God has revealed himself and there's all the rest who stayed ignorant and had to make do with their own invented gods.

    Did they all go to waste, those people with no revelation? Or are they just as good as the Monotheists who know God?

    Adding them all up, there have been more ignorant of the One God than were given revelation.

    Let me say this Religion is man made , The help everyone looking for His At The End Of One Own Arm . Maybe those who have accept these man made religion can give you better answer then I ..
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    Nothing .What Would Man's Purpose Be Without God ? The Answer Is Quite Simple . The Same As With A God '' Survival '' , Simply Animalistic Survival . Man Can In Fact Exist Without God , But A God Cannot Exist Without Man . That Is Why Man Created God In His

    Image And After His Likenesses , And Then Said God Created Man In His Image And After His Likeness . Because Man Is In Fact God And Admits It In His Holy Scriptures By Calling Himself The Son Of God ( Luke 3 ; 38 ) At One Point , And God At Another Point ( Psalms 82 ; 6 ) ( John 10 ; 34 ) ( 1Corinthians ; 3 ;16 ) .

    Psalms 82 ; 6 , And I Quote ; the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.


    John 10 ; 34 , And I Quote ; Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, 'I said, you are gods'?

    1Corinthians ; 3 ;16 , And I Quote ; Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniyal View Post
    Thank you for your input .

    What know about Greek Mythology -- '' Myth '' Which according to Webster's New World Dictionary is ; A word legend, A traditional story of unknown authorship , Serving usually to explain some phenomenon of nature , The origin of man , Or the customs , Religious rites , Etc Of people '' Actually mytholgy is myths or stories invented to cover up explanation of the truth which are usually tradition basis , But serving usually to explain some . extremely extraordinary occurrences of natures ,
    In what way does Greek mythology differ from, say, Christianity?

    Was it any less true to the ancient Greeks than Christianity is to today's western culture?

    Why is it a myth rather than a religion?

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