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    IMO, Cruz's mother is American, therefore so is he, being naturally born from her American body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnneBoleyn View Post
    IMO, Cruz's mother is American, therefore so is he, being naturally born from her American body.
    True, but her American Body was in Canada when he was born. Therefore, he is a Natural Born Canadian.
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    True, but her American Body was in Canada when he was born. Therefore, he is a Natural Born Canadian.
    She was still an American, no matter where she was residing. He is a citizen through her citizenship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnneBoleyn View Post
    She was still an American, no matter where she was residing. He is a citizen through her citizenship.
    He is entitled to citizenship through one parent being a citizen. true. But he was also a Canadian Citizen because of his birth in Canada.
    Dual citizenship.
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    Re: Barack Obama's Unconstitutional as POTUS

    I thought the rule was that they had to be born in the US, seeing as anyone can become a US Citizen. On that idea, though, what would have been the ruling of someone born in Alaska before they bought it from the Russians?

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    Re: Barack Obama's Unconstitutional as POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by AnneBoleyn View Post
    IMO, Cruz's mother is American, therefore so is he, being naturally born from her American body.
    I am not so sure about that. I did some reading on this Trumb claim and him using this Laurence Tribe as the authority for his claim.

    Really wasted enough time on this and my conclusion is there is no reason Cruz can't run.
    We just have to pick a good VP in the unlikely event the USSC toss's him out.

    As of now I don't see a definite answer to this question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    He is entitled to citizenship through one parent being a citizen. true. But he was also a Canadian Citizen because of his birth in Canada.
    Dual citizenship.
    I that the same as "natural born"?

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    Re: Barack Obama's Unconstitutional as POTUS

    Citizenship is automatically granted to those born within the boundaries of the US, or on US territory, and to those who's parent or parents were citizens at the time of their birth.
    Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before it was a state. But it was a US Territory, and he was a US citizen.

    The actual definition of "Natural Born citizen" is at question, but precedence seems to have been set that will lead to Mr Cruz being declared eligible for the office.

    As to your question, someone born in Alaska prior to the acquisition by the US, would be Russian citizens. People born there after it became a US Territory would likely have been considered US citizens.
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    Re: Barack Obama's Unconstitutional as POTUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourPart View Post
    I thought the rule was that they had to be born in the US, seeing as anyone can become a US Citizen. On that idea, though, what would have been the ruling of someone born in Alaska before they bought it from the Russians?
    If one is born in another country while their American (one or both) parents are vacationing, or working, the offspring is a natural born American.

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