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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    And if you think about the fact that Christ died and rose again in AD 33, it will soon be exactly 2000 years since that event took place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
    New Year fits in because the year 2020 is based upon 2020 years since the birth of Christ, therefore, it's about His birth.
    Except that the birth of Jesus was more like 6-4 BCE
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    Except that the birth of Jesus was more like 6-4 BCE
    Scholars do agree with you. Or ought I say that you agree with them? This pretty much proves that he was not born 2020 years ago. The date (Dec 25) is also well out of whack and a grand speculation. It might not matter all that very much had it not been for the “Christmas Celebration”. If Christians would only accept this fact and treat “Christmas” as a symbolic celebration of Jesus' coming then all would be well but they insist on nailing it down, thus creating an absurd hysteria over “faith”.

    One of the most interesting aspects of Jehovah's Witness is that they sideline such trivial and distracting matters (Christmas, Easter, Crucifixion, etc.) and focus on what they believe is Jesus' contribution to life and its' meaning. There is far less hocus-pocus and superstition amongst Jehovah's Witness and you have to admire them for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    Except that the birth of Jesus was more like 6-4 BCE
    But when they made the calendar, it was believed to be 1 AD. I also want to point out that they don't start dates at 0. They have since adjusted the date to 4 BC due to historical information about Herod. Nonetheless, the year is based on the birth of Christ.

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    When they made the calendar, they were guessing. Is that what you are saying?
    Of course, they are actually STILL guessing.
    If it was really THAT important, though, I am pretty sure that God would not have left it to guesswork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    When they made the calendar, they were guessing. Is that what you are saying?
    Of course, they are actually STILL guessing.
    Exactly.


    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    If it was really THAT important, though, I am pretty sure that God would not have left it to guesswork.
    Well, guesswork is a debatable point. According to Christian ambiguity, The Creator of Heaven and Earth sent down a superstitious anomaly through the womb of some hocus-pocus "virgin" for the purpose of scaring the world's population into submission. I don't know what you believe but if some Supreme Creator thought it was necessary to astound humanity by living, breathing, physical evidence why in god's name (no pun intended) did he/she/it not perform one of his/her/its' miracles and have the revelation witnessed by every man, woman and child on earth simultaneously? Why rely upon "word of mouth" of a handful of alleged witnesses at a tiny spot on the planet? After all, he is supposed to have sent this anomaly to be "witnessed".

    So, back to your question on "guesswork". One can assume that Christians feel that it's "In for a penny, in for a pound". If you have decided to put your faith in superstitious hocus-pocus ... you can just as well make up any outrageous, cockamamy story you like and claim, "It's a miracle, it's God's miracle!" So, basing the birth of Christ on guesswork is rather a mild example of the mumbo jumbo "faith". I cannot understand why you do not fall upon your knees in awe and wonder and accept the Biblical accounts of Jesus Christ our Saviour who is one of three Gods except that there is only one God .... or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    When they made the calendar, they were guessing. Is that what you are saying?
    Of course, they are actually STILL guessing.
    If it was really THAT important, though, I am pretty sure that God would not have left it to guesswork.
    You are missing my point. My point is that the calendar it's self is based on the birth of Christ, regardless of if they messed up on the exact year or not. I would agree with you that the exact year isn't that important or God would have made it easier to figure out.

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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    So would you now agree that there are in fact 3 days a year that the world Celebrates the Christian God of the Bible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
    So would you now agree that there are in fact 3 days a year that the world Celebrates the Christian God of the Bible?
    Umm, no.
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    Umm, no.
    Ok, so what is your reason for not believing that the world celebrates Christmas, Easter and New Year?

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