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    BNP to change Party rule to allow ethnic communities to join Party

    The British National Party will have to adapt to the undemocratic Orwellian ‘equality laws’ with regards to party membership criteria, or it will die, party leader Nick Griffin warned in reaction to today’s court hearing brought by the Commission for Equality & Human Rights (CEHR).

    “The CEHR move is a deadly serious threat to our very existence,” Mr Griffin said in a statement this evening. He pointed out that the severe danger to the party was illustrated by the fact that the court ordered the BNP to pay the costs of today’s hearing — which amount to thousands of pounds — and yet nothing had been decided.

    To pursue the case all the way to an appeal in the House of Lords could cost the party more than a million pounds, he continued. This would effectively strip the party of its ability to fight the next general election.

    Even though the outcome of the case is still undecided, Mr Griffin said that whatever the court might decide, “the forthcoming Equality Bill will, in any case, simply and unavoidably ban any political party from discriminating on grounds of ethnicity.”

    The entire court case is therefore pointless even from the CEHR’s position, and is clearly designed only to bleed the party of its funding.

    Mr Griffin said any decision on amending the BNP’s constitution in this matter would “stick in the craw of all dedicated nationalists” but that it was a choice of “evolving and living to fight another day or going down in a blaze of glory.”

    Mr Griffin said the starting point for any debate had to be “an understanding that the new law will shortly ban ethnically defined parties anyway. This makes the CEHR`s waste of public money so disgraceful and their attempt to bleed us to death by a totally unnecessary legal action so cynical and despicable.

    “We could still fight it all the way on a point of stubborn principle — I think that most party old hands have worked out some time ago that I can be pretty damn stubborn when the time is right. The decision is not just mine to make,” he said, adding that it was a decision which must be taken by the party as a collective whole.

    Mr Griffin said that if the party wanted to fight the case all the way, it would need to raise an extra £80,000 in the next four weeks. Some £20,000 would be needed this week to buy in more top lawyers’ time to triple check and hone to perfection the changes the party would have to make in its constitution and organisation.

    “I have no doubt that it is possible to redraft our constitution so as to ensure we comply with the new law while at the same time holding true to our core principles and most importantly of all, to our purpose — which is to secure a future for the true children of our islands,” Mr Griffin said.

    “By taking this as far as a court hearing, we have ensured that party unity will be maintained, because whatever steps we take, it is now crystal clear to all concerned that we simply do not have a choice.

    “Adapt or die is the only decision left to make, for failure to adapt would lead either to our being bled white through the courts or crushed by new criminal laws. Party unity is priceless, because a party of brothers standing shoulder to shoulder can be persecuted, but it can never be beaten or broken.”

    Mr Griffin concluded with a promise that once the party had moved to a “truly defensible position, we will go on the attack. Not just politically, so that our enemies quickly rue the day when they broke the very stick with which they have beaten us for so long, but also legally.

    “We will be going into legal battle against Trevor Phillips and the rest of the ‘curs’, but it will be fought on ground that we choose, at the time that we appoint, and with our maximum strength directed against their weakest point. Our time will come — and sooner than they think.”

    Mr Griffin’s full statement is as follows:

    Statement from BNP leader Nick Griffin MEP on the Commission for Equality & Human Rights (CEHR) Case

    02 September 2009

    The barrister representing the party was at court on our behalf and got what we wanted — a seven week adjournment. This gives us the time and space we need to continue the urgent debate which opened with the very constructive and mature discussion meeting at the Red, White and Blue.

    But most important of all, we have established two crucial points that had to be made, and could only be made by taking this as far as court, despite the inevitable cost.

    The first is that the CEHR move, although motivated by their own internal political feuds as much as anything else, is a deadly serious threat to our very existence.

    This is neither a game nor a phantom concern conjured up in order to push through changes to the constitution — which might well be electorally advantageous — but would stick in the craw of us dedicated nationalists.

    Either we shift our position or we will be utterly crushed. That fact was established beyond any possible doubt when the judge ruled that we must pay the thousands of pounds of costs of today’s hearing.

    How much that bill will be, we cannot tell, because part of the grotesque unfairness of this is that we will be forced to hire the services of a very good legal firm simply to argue that the figure which will be proposed by Trevor Phillips and co will be far too high and has to be reduced to something sensible and proportionate.

    For us to take this case to the next hearing would mean raising and risking at least £80,000. To take it all the way to the House of Lords would swallow up well over a million Pounds.

    Even if we were likely to win, we could only afford this with a super human effort which would involve, among other sacrifices, virtually abandoning the next general election.

    What makes that course of action even more of a Charge of the Light Brigade gesture is, that whatever the court decides in October, the forthcoming Equality Bill will, in any case, simply and unavoidably ban any political party from discriminating on grounds of ethnicity.

    By taking this as far as a court hearing, we have ensured that party unity will be maintained, because whatever steps we take, it is now crystal clear to all concerned that we simply do not have a choice.

    Adapt or die is the only decision left to make, for failure to adapt would lead either to our being bled white through the courts or crushed by new criminal laws.

    Party unity is priceless, because a party of brothers standing shoulder to shoulder can be persecuted, but it can never be beaten or broken.

    The second vital point we’ve made clear by letting this get all the way to court is that traditional British justice – indeed, the very essence of Britishness — is dead, murdered as part of New Labour´s creeping coup d’état.

    Two of the great and ancient cornerstones of our true British identity are fairness and the unbreakable rule that institutions of the state must be bound by the rule of law.

    The creation of CEHR and this persecution shattered both of those cornerstones. It is grotesquely unfair that a state-funded bureaucracy with 70 top lawyers and £70 million to burn, can decide, without showing a shred of evidence of any wrongdoing, to persecute a group of twelve and a half thousand mainly working class volunteers.

    When the CEHR was established, it was originally intended to be bound by the kind of restrictions that are rightly imposed on all state bodies. The Labour government and the political elite have scrapped the safeguards.

    The CEHR is an autocratic power block which can go before any court and follow the maxim of Humpty Dumpty in Alice through the Looking Glass that “it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”

    Our lawyers’ highly compelling argument that the principle of Equality of Arms means that CEHR should fund our defence (as they would indeed assist any organisation representing literally any other ethnic group) was simply brushed aside by CEHR’s own lawyers, and thus not even considered by the court.

    The shocking truth is that not even the Inland Revenue has this amount of power. The tax-grabbers are at least required to be, and to show, that they are fair.

    The CEHR are empowered to do whatever they think fit. This is not British; it isn’t cricket. It is a fundamental change not just in our law but in our entire culture.

    The scale of CEHR’s power and monstrous arrogance is best shown by the fact that their lawyers seriously proposed to the court to settle in a mere two hours the fundamental question raised by this case: namely whether indigenous groups recognised in law as having their ethnic origins in these islands (Eilias v MoD) and covered by the liberal-left’s own Race Relations Act are entitled to form associations of their own kind.

    “Of course, they know perfectly well that we are. They know that we are, hence the brutal use of their legal steamroller to ensure that we cannot afford to make this particular case the Cause Celebre that would bring the point home to untold numbers more who are at present in blissful ignorance of our rights and duties as the first peoples of these, our islands.

    So where do we go from here? The starting point for the debate has to be an understanding that the new law will shortly ban ethnically defined parties anyway, which makes CEHR`s waste of public money so disgraceful, and their attempt to bleed us to death by a totally unnecessary legal action, so cynical and despicable.

    We could still fight it all the way on a point of stubborn principle — I think that most party old hands have worked out some time ago that I can be pretty damn stubborn when the time is right. The decision as to whether this is the right time to stand and go down in a blaze of glory, or to evolve and live to fight another day, is one that is not just mine to make. It is yours as well.

    If the party collectively wants to fight, then we have to raise £80,000 extra in the next four weeks. If the party collectively wants to guarantee its survival, then we need £20,000 this week to buy in more top lawyers’ time to triple check and hone to perfection the changes we would have to make to our constitution and organisation.

    We have already identified these, but our rough diamonds have to be cut and polished, and our iron tempered into the brightest steel.

    I have no doubt that it is possible to redraft our constitution so as to ensure we comply with the new law while at the same time holding true to our core principles and most important of all to our purpose — to secure a future for the true children of our islands.

    And I promise you one thing beyond this: That once we have moved to a truly defensible position we will go on the attack.

    Not just politically, so that our enemies quickly rue the day when they broke the very stick with which they have beaten us for so long, but also legally.

    We will be going into legal battle against Trevor Phillips and the rest of the ‘curs’, but it will be fought on ground that we choose, at the time that we appoint, and with our maximum strength directed against their weakest point. Our time will come — and sooner than they think.

    The state will regret this.

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    That they should define themselves in those terms is offensive in the first place. That the should fight to keep it so is inexcusable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
    That they should define themselves in those terms is offensive in the first place. That the should fight to keep it so is inexcusable.
    As we all know, Griffin has a hbit of putting his size tens firmly in his gob in any public statement. However, general feeling in the Party is that most members welcome the change.

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    Even though the outcome of the case is still undecided, Mr Griffin said that whatever the court might decide, “the forthcoming Equality Bill will, in any case, simply and unavoidably ban any political party from discriminating on grounds of ethnicity.”
    I bet of the SNP banned the english from joining he would be outraged. Don't worry oscar you can join the SNP if you want to-we're not prejudiced but you'd have to stop reading the daily mail and think for yourselfAfter all there's inly one word of difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar View Post
    .......evolving and living to fight another day or going down in a blaze of glory.”
    There isn't, never has been and never will be any glory attached to anything the BNP does


    Quote Originally Posted by oscar View Post
    This is neither a game nor a phantom concern conjured up in order to push through changes to the constitution — which might well be electorally advantageous — but would stick in the craw of us dedicated nationalists.
    I'm a Nationalist and the BNP stick in my craw - in fact they sicken me. The BNP is a racist and crypto-fascist idiots - they'll be calling for a jihad next.


    Quote Originally Posted by oscar View Post
    Two of the great and ancient cornerstones of our true British identity are fairness and the unbreakable rule that institutions of the state must be bound by the rule of law.
    There is no "true British identity" Griffin and his ilk are Little-Englanders with an unspecified agenda.
    An ye harm none, do what ye will....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chookie View Post
    There isn't, never has been and never will be any glory attached to anything the BNP does



    I'm a Nationalist and the BNP stick in my craw - in fact they sicken me. The BNP is a racist and crypto-fascist idiots - they'll be calling for a jihad next.



    There is no "true British identity" Griffin and his ilk are Little-Englanders with an unspecified agenda.
    Hey... Don't shoot the messenger... I'm relaying Griffins words to open discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar View Post
    Hey... Don't shoot the messenger... I'm relaying Griffins words to open discussion.
    You certainly got some of that then :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
    You certainly got some of that then :-)
    And what in The Gordon Browns does that mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar View Post
    And what in The Gordon Browns does that mean?
    That your post invoked a reasonable discussion of the merits of the BNP's position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
    That your post invoked a reasonable discussion of the merits of the BNP's position.
    Sorry Bryn... I'm having a numpty moment here in Oscar Towers.

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