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    Re: Teacher's Suicide Blamed on Test Scores

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    R.I.P Rigo...you did your best and had to die for it.
    Had to? Had to?? Unless he was murdered as someone has suggested might be the case, He didn't have to die; He chose to.

    Granted, he was ill-treated. No teacher should be embarassed as he was in this way, but such treatment doesn't force one to kill himself.

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    I don't think he had to die at all. But he did. And don't you think the press and the people that bullied him have some responsibility for that?

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    I don't, I think it was a choice. That's America for ya where only the strong survive. Tough love we call it. We can't have it both ways, we either ditch this 'tough love' bull**** philosophy and seek a more compassionate one or we live with the consequences. Eventually perhaps all the weak ones will die off by means of suicide, starvation, lack of health care, or exposure and America will once again be the envy of the world. Its a small price to pay when you think about it in the grand scheme of things.

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    . Eventually perhaps all the weak ones will die off by means of suicide, starvation, lack of health care, or exposure and america will once again be the envy of the world. Its a small price to pay when you think about it in the grand scheme of things.
    whaaaaaaaat?!!!!!!!!!

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    whaaaaaaaat?!!!!!!!!!
    Oh that's not what tough love was intended to accomplish? I beg to differ, thats what its always been about.

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    R.I.P Rigo...you did your best and had to die for it.
    I don't think he had to die at all.
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    ... But he did. And don't you think the press and the people that bullied him have some responsibility for that?
    Do you mean they should feel ashamed of their actions, or they should go to jail? Yes, I hope that whoever publishes accusations as fact feels the sting of shame for what they've done. 'Innocent until proven guilty' represents a principle that everyone should live by, imo.

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    Re: Teacher's Suicide Blamed on Test Scores

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_ View Post
    Or as I like to call it, "Completely and Totally Screwed Up."

    Here's a good, award-winning, and beloved teacher, willing to work with poor and disadvantaged minorities who can barely speak English, and he is vilified in the press for it. This country is screwed. I can retire in four years and I'm not looking back. Further, I'm recommending to anyone I can find to listen that they NOT EVER consider becoming a teacher.



    As a teacher at an Alternative High School I'm in EXACTLY the same boat as this poor dude. I may bring kids up from a fourth grade level in math to a eighth grade level in a single year, four year's worth of progress where other teachers failed, but since they don't make it to a ninth grade level, I'm a failure.

    Hey, you got a student that ditched 85 days of your class then failed the test? Too bad..that's YOUR fault. It's absolutely unbelievable.

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    R.I.P Rigo...you did your best and had to die for it.
    Your thread has been on my mind these past couple days since I first read it, Saint. Don't let this single tragedy affect your dedication to the teaching profession. There are children who really want to learn. When these children grow up, they will not remember test scores, they will remember the teacher who motivated and inspired them. I do.
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    Now that cuts to the heart of what's really important.

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    Re: Teacher's Suicide Blamed on Test Scores

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    The problem lays at the heart of the culture and while these efficiency scores may have lead to this person committing suicide the man was obviously troubled and needed his own guidance in many ways.

    I find these evaluations to be deplorable, however, and this idea that passing grades is an indication of how well educated one might be is ridiculous. Each district has its own definition of "educated" because we as a nation we try and educate our children with the least amount of money as possible to remain economically efficient. This blatantly highlights our values being the sole purpose of monetary gain as opposed to nourishing lives that could have saved this man.

    In a society with such perverted values how then is it possible at all to evaluate teachers when the problems they face are far beyond their requisite abilities?

    Miami University uses students to evaluate professors. Can anyone rap their brain around that one for me please? Here we have Ph.D scholars being evaluated by these rich daddy's boy and girl rich kids. And somehow we as a nation are surprised our education system is sub-par at most?

    Fixing it is not going to come to fruition by dumping more money into schools from the backs of the middle class. Our schools will be successful through a more equal distribution of funds from those at the top 2% so that middle class families are not wading through loads of meaningless and repetitive jobs who have not time at all to be at home nourishing a child's spirit and guiding their sensibilities toward intellectual habits that presuppose higher values.

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