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    There Is No Creator

    The universe was not created by anything because time did not exist before the big bang. Without time to exist in, there could not be a creator.

    Curiosity "Did God Create the Universe?"

    I disagree with Mr Hawking.There is a beginning, there is an end. Our universe was a conscious act. There is a "creator" we just don't know where it is yet.

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    Time is a human construct.
    There was a "before the Big Bang"
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    I honestly don't think it matters other than for exclusionary purposes in grouping.
    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,”
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    Leaving aside the vexed question of who created the creator we don't know enough to form an opinion either way is about the only claim you can make. One thing I am sure of non of the religions have any particular insight and the world would be a better place if we stopped believing that they did. It's up to those who believe there is a creator to prove it claiming they have the truth and the way and warring on anyone who disagrees is hardly a constructive approach

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    What are you talking about???? I just created a fantastic Dinner

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmc View Post
    Leaving aside the vexed question of who created the creator we don't know enough to form an opinion either way is about the only claim you can make. One thing I am sure of non of the religions have any particular insight and the world would be a better place if we stopped believing that they did. It's up to those who believe there is a creator to prove it claiming they have the truth and the way and warring on anyone who disagrees is hardly a constructive approach
    Mr Hawkings seems to be taking a somewhat religious point of view in that he seems to have a THE inside track on the subject.
    Not that I care, mind you. We can coexist with differing opinions, unless he were to become militant about it.

    He has as much right to be wrong as I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzywuzzy View Post
    What are you talking about???? I just created a fantastic Dinner
    Keep it in the warmer. I'll be right over.
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    Re: There Is No Creator

    Whether God exists or not, there is a spiritual side to life. The existence of mystics over milennia and their experiences are real, even if exploring altered states of consciousness owed more to fasting and or interesting substances than God as a direct cause. But we will always create God, even if he doesn't exist, even if we call Him the Spirit of the Universe, or Nirvana, or Odin, or The Light. In that sense God is an ideal, and a reflection of us. I do not think you can destroy God until you destroy all of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clodhopper View Post
    Whether God exists or not, there is a spiritual side to life. The existence of mystics over millenia and their experiences are real, even if exploring altered states of consciousness owed more to fasting and or interesting substances than God as a direct cause. But we will always create God, even if he doesn't exist, even if we call Him the Spirit of the Universe, or Nirvana, or Odin, or The Light. In that sense God is an ideal, and a reflection of us. I do not think you can destroy God until you destroy all of us.
    There is a spiritual side, what we really could do without is all those who think they know the answers and insist on killing over it.

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