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    Louisiana Privatizing Education

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    (Reuters) - Louisiana is embarking on the nation's boldest experiment in privatizing public education, with the state preparing to shift tens of millions in tax dollars out of the public schools to pay private industry, businesses owners and church pastors to educate children.
    Louisiana's bold bid to privatize schools | Reuters
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    Re: Louisiana Privatizing Education

    The sum, presumably, is

    Total Schools Budget + Efficiency Savings + Additional Parental Contribution - Shareholder Dividend - Cost Of Schools = 0

    I'd suspect "Additional Parental Contribution" is by definition zero or it wouldn't be privatized public education, it would be the public voucher system going to newly privatized schools. Public vouchers seem to have been off the agenda ever since they were first suggested.

    The aim is to reduce Total Schools Budget?

    If Efficiency Savings exceeds Shareholder Dividend then they can do that without bringing down the Cost Of Schools (or the cost of educating each child through the system, it's the same thing).

    It's more likely, in practice, they'll trim the Cost Of Schools to generate their Shareholder Dividend.

    Shareholder Dividend is zero if it's a not-for-profit private concern, is that an option?
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    Is this by any chance going to allow the religious right to set the curriculum in a whole lot of new faith schools? Says he going all conspiracy theory on your ass.
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    This is the beauty of the American system that would be destroyed by those who want to centralize power & policy in Washington. Fifty grand experiments on how to make it better. If Louisiana's idea results in higher standardized test scores, then the rest of the country benefits by adopting & adapting it to fit their own situations. If the idea fails, then the rest of the country benefits by not having to implement a permanent national program only to find out that it doesn't work.

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    Officials have not estimated the price tag of these programs but expect the state will save money in the long run, because they believe the private sector can educate kids more cheaply than public schools.

    Whether those savings will materialize is unclear.

    By law, the value of each voucher can't exceed the sum the state would spend educating that child in public school -- on average, $8,800 a year. Small private schools often charge as little as $3,000 to $5,000 a year.

    Yet at some private schools with low tuition, administrators contacted by Reuters said they would also ask the state to cover additional, unspecified fees, which would bring the cost to taxpayers close to the $8,800 cap. The law requires the state to cover both tuition and fees.
    I predict the price of grade school education will skyrocket to match the maximum the state will pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accountable View Post
    This is the beauty of the American system that would be destroyed by those who want to centralize power & policy in Washington. Fifty grand experiments on how to make it better. If Louisiana's idea results in higher standardized test scores, then the rest of the country benefits by adopting & adapting it to fit their own situations. If the idea fails, then the rest of the country benefits by not having to implement a permanent national program only to find out that it doesn't work.
    Somehow, I don't see higher test scores being a real concern:
    The school willing to accept the most voucher students -- 314 -- is New Living Word in Ruston, which has a top-ranked basketball team but no library. Students spend most of the day watching TVs in bare-bones classrooms. Each lesson consists of an instructional DVD that intersperses Biblical verses with subjects such chemistry or composition.
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    As long as the math test require the counting of fish or blessing all should be fine.

    I liked the response from the lady who said she didn't want to confuse the children regarding evolutionary theory. Like a sometime loving but mostly vengeful God isn't confusing enough.
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    I wonder if the taxpayers in La are going to demand that the state assure them that none of their personal school taxes goes to religious education. That was the right's argument on welfare and abortion.
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    Re: Louisiana Privatizing Education

    So, religious anti-science and anti-fact indoctrination will be substituted for actual education? How many years of remedial education will be required if a student actually wants to attend a good college? Will this also spawn special religious colleges that have the same lowered standards? Is the attempt to make a high school diploma or college degree worthless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    Somehow, I don't see higher test scores being a real concern:
    Savings is the primary concern, but they're not going to get it. However, if this experiment shows another state that one or two pieces can be used to improve their system, then some good is accomplished. LA is at or near the bottom in terms of education in America already, so any improvement would be welcome. They are making changes to try this; they can likewise make changes when they find flaws. The haters in this thread won't see that but it doesn't make it less true.

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