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    It's a complex problem that goes beyond their age too.

    We need think tanks to figure out a better solution than just telling kids to not do it. We can also look at the examples set for them. How many times do kids hear adults sitting around trashing someone and rejecting them from the social group? That's one of the few things they can do themselves to gain esteem. They can't go out and get a better paying job or buy fancy clothes unless their folks are rich and just hand over money upon request. If it's not their own parents, they simply see someone else do it, see that it worked and wish to not be at the wrong end of the bully stick when attention swings their way. Learned behaviour? Survival instinct?

    Relational Aggression is one of the few methods of acquiring personal power that teenagers have. Once out of school there are other means of showing or attaining a sense of worth though peer group manipulation remains a constant. We hear more about it in kids because they are more vulnerable and it can result in suicide more easily but it doesn't really end after high school.

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    Anonymous claims to have found the pedophile.
    I'm hesitant to post the name they've given until there's some sort of confirmation that the guy is responsible. Looks like he's at least guilty of participating in teen porn if not the guy behind the Amanda Todd case. It would be nice if the internet that helped destroy her also helps bring her tormentors to justice.

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    I was bullied more by teachers, (nuns) i did have learning disability back in the 60's u were labled RETARTED and your parents were told to send me away til i was old enough to live in a group home. i did. thank u mom standing up for mr. i learned in my 30's i had ADD plus i was deslexiuse. being a FAT four- eyed kid who was over grown for her age, was teased, tripped and laughted at a lot.and slammed into walls. to read out law was a true night mare. the nun s encouraged the students behavior. any one who went through grief and pain like this. understands who a child may loose it one. shame on those nuns and kids. if you
    ionly knew how you played such a big part of crushing my self esteen. and self worth. never sorry for what they have done. i wonder if this is done to their child or grandchild by a kid or to theres?????? would like to hear a bullies story, WHY??????

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    Re: Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by koan View Post
    It's a complex problem that goes beyond their age too.

    We need think tanks to figure out a better solution than just telling kids to not do it. We can also look at the examples set for them. How many times do kids hear adults sitting around trashing someone and rejecting them from the social group? That's one of the few things they can do themselves to gain esteem. They can't go out and get a better paying job or buy fancy clothes unless their folks are rich and just hand over money upon request. If it's not their own parents, they simply see someone else do it, see that it worked and wish to not be at the wrong end of the bully stick when attention swings their way. Learned behaviour? Survival instinct?

    Relational Aggression is one of the few methods of acquiring personal power that teenagers have. Once out of school there are other means of showing or attaining a sense of worth though peer group manipulation remains a constant. We hear more about it in kids because they are more vulnerable and it can result in suicide more easily but it doesn't really end after high school.
    The only think I can think of is doing the same thing they did in Indian prisons - introducing meditation courses, but unlike in prisons, in high-schools you'd probably have to make them obligatory.
    Half jokes aside, I do believe our attitude towards teenagers is a bit skewed these days. People had families at their age only 2 centuries ago while today they are treated as children. Children can get away with a lot of things. Children are not obliged to think about the consequences of their actions. Children can just blindly follow pack mentality and tell themselves that they did not know any better.
    In my opinion, the one thing that can be done is treating them as adults, leaving no doubt that all their actions today will have consequences (not being grounded or having their allowance revoked, but explaining that what they do defines the kind of person they are becoming), trying to give them a sense of purpose and some way of defining their self worth other then trough the eyes of others.

    It is not an easy, over night solution, but it does solve the problem from two sides - it does not raise bullies and it does not raise bully victims.

    I was raised in a similar way, and though I was far from popular, I was never ever bullied, even though I would have been a perfect candidate (new kid, very few friends, a bit weird, too smart, too quiet). But no one ever really tried and I have no regrets about the way I spent my teens.

    I suppose that the problem with this course of action is that in order to take it, parents have to reach a certain level of awareness themselves. A lot of people do not have it, but I guess these things happen step by step.
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    It seems that this cyber bullying is on the increase and the recent deaths are spurring calls for more legislation (in Canada anyway) and being used by the opposition to score political points.
    I'm not sure that more legislation is the answer and Canada's Senate committee has been looking into it, so I await their report.

    Many people don't believe that more legislation is the answer, maybe what is needed is more education at home and at school. However, the Canadian courts have already interpreted criminal harassment in a provision of the Criminal Code to apply to behaviour committed via the Internet. Bill C-45 - Overview : OSH Answers
    It may not be enough, but we should read the Senate committee's report before changing or adding to current legislation.

    Bullying seems to be getting worse but it seems to me that this requires intervention from many areas, students, teachers and parents, so legislation is not the final answer. It may help as a support rule, but it can't regulate school yard, or social network relationships. It's a pretty complicated situation.

    Here's a reaction to the Senate committee

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    For the "part 1" segment of this sad tale, Anonymous now says they got the address and age wrong but that the man they named is currently attending court on charges of sexual assault and sexual interference with a minor. The man, Dakota Maxson, has said he knew Amanda Todd but claims he was helping her to try and track down her predator. He claims it was another blogtv user named Viper2323. It seems unlikely that Dakota (Kody1206) who won "Blackmailer of the year" awards on The Daily Capper summaries was "helping" Ms Todd. Whatever the story, Maxson has not been charged with anything and the internet response to the Anonymous file dumps shows potential for riling up vigilante mobs.

    Kody's name has been published in newspapers now and his mother has responded that he is troubled but innocent of the accusations. The original details given by AnonymousNJ said Maxson was 30 or 32 but he is now known to be 19. They said he lived in New Westminster but seems he resides in Surrey. Surrey courts will soon decide if he is innocent of similar crimes allegedly committed in February 2012.
    Anonymous names man who allegedly drove Amanda Todd to suicide - National Women's Issues | Examiner.com

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    A girl decided to bully me In school. She was older than me and at the time I had no Idea of why she had turned her attention to me. I confided In the head teacher and he put a stop to It Inside the school but she started waiting for me outside the school on my way home at the point where she knew I broke from my group of friends as I lived further out and the last part of the walk home I did alone.

    The matter was resolved after about 2 weeks of this when she found my brothers waiting for her at the last part of my walk. Then I punched her In the face.... It never happened again and I feel absolutely no shame to this day. She was a big brute of a girl, older and bigger than me and I feel no shame for splattering her nose over her face because she had felt no shame In attempting to terrorise me. Later she tried to befriend me and told me her actions were due to being Jealous of the parents and family I had.

    Not so long ago, someone tried bullying me on the Internet and made the mistake of putting It In writing. The local police were more than happy to oblige me under The Malicious Communications Act and Harrassment Laws.... that was the end of that..... although everything remains on file with them....surprising what a visit from Plod will do to someone.... not so clever now eh ????

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    I'm not sure punching people in the face is the solution we're looking for here.

    Premiere Christy Clark is looking at drafting new legislation to criminalize bullying. She "spear headed" anti-bullying programs in the past and it doesn't seem to have done much. I'm intrigued to see what sort of legislation they come up with. So far, the court system is little more than a playground for who has the best lawyer and very much a travesty to justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiend View Post
    ... trying to give them a sense of purpose and some way of defining their self worth ....
    It is not an easy, over night solution, but it does solve the problem from two sides - it does not raise bullies and it does not raise bully victims.
    ....

    I suppose that the problem with this course of action is that in order to take it, parents have to reach a certain level of awareness themselves. A lot of people do not have it, but I guess these things happen step by step.
    I have said, since I was about 16, that the main problems in this world stem from a lack of personal power. If people feel in control of their lives and that they have purpose and worth, they don't go about stealing it from others around them. It's an endless cycle. Stealing personal power creates more people with low sense of personal power who steal it from someone else... and on and on.

    You can't just say "you're the most important person in the world" (the actual slogan used in my era) because people forget that's true of everyone and it continues the value system where one person is "more important." A very ill thought out slogan, indeed.

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    Re: Bullying

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    8 teenage girls arrested in London Ontario today for alleged bullying of a schoolmate. Tips came in after Amanda Todd's suicide.
    Eight teens arrested in Canada in new bullying case

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