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    Review - Samsung Galaxy Ace (GT-S5830i, 832MHz)

    I've had several cellphones, all pay as you go. The first had an extensible aerial and I forget who made it but it lasted me eight years. Then I had a succession of identical builder's bricks - the Nokia 5210 with the rubber case - there are two on my desk still with active SIMs. A few months ago I was out of town with no phone, found I needed one and paid £10 for a Samsung GT-E1230. I prefer the older Nokia.

    I did, however, have an unsolved problem. I spend days at a time beyond wifi reach with a laptop but no Internet. I finally went into Phones4U and asked for something capable of tethering a laptop to a 3G data link. That was my sole requirement and I came out with their cheapest choice, a Galaxy Ace for £80, all Android phones having been able to do that since 2.3.

    I put in a SIM that allows PAYG tethering, initialized everything as far as a welcome message and went into the Google Play Store where Apps live. I had one in mind which is, to my mind, worth the cost of the phone in its own right though it had nothing to do with my purchase. Google Stars, free and extraordinarily exciting. Thank you Google.

    I tethered my laptop with no trouble and ignored the phone for a couple of days, then I started to learn about what I'd bought. I downloaded Firefox. I went to "Upgrade Systems Software". I hit a wall and started discovering what I didn't know. Just installing those two packages had squeezed the minimal storage space so hard that the system couldn't update in the remaining few megabytes. I uninstalled them both, upgraded the system and browsed the Internet to find out how to cope.

    The storage was packed tight with crud apps from Samsung. I had no rights to delete them. I rooted the phone to get the rights, thereby voiding my warranty. I deleted a third of the storage. I added a small SMS app, M7, to replace the huge Samsung Messaging app I'd kicked out. The phone still worked as far as I could tell, but I now had room to bring back Firefox and Google Stars. I brought on another half-dozen useful apps and still have enough slack space to feel comfortable.

    The micro-sd slot currently has an 8GB stick with a few books and enough music to please me. The phone will establish either a 3.5mm stereo jack or bluetooth connection to whatever amp and speakers I have to hand and I'm delighted. I bought a £20 bluetooth over-the-ear headset from eBay too and that sounds as good as my ears can cope with. I upgraded the stock 1350maH battery to 2450maH for another £5. I can get from dawn to bedtime with as much bluetooth, wifi, GPS and tethering as I need and recharge while asleep.

    I've taken a couple of photos on the 5Mp camera and it's what I'd expect. I'll keep my digital compact on my belt.

    One day I might feel the need for a quad-processing bigger-screen next-generation jump but I've done what I needed. I'm loath to part with my old Nokias though. I suspect I might carry on using them outside the house but I'm only two weeks into this new one, who can tell.
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    Re: Review - Samsung Galaxy Ace (GT-S5830i, 832MHz)

    How did you root the phone?
    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,”
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    Re: Review - Samsung Galaxy Ace (GT-S5830i, 832MHz)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahso! View Post
    How did you root the phone?
    Choosing who to trust isn't easy when it comes to unauthorized Android fiddles, but working it out from scratch is infeasible. I googled about until I found a consensus of where experts lived, and then I found a rooting thread in plain view that had hundreds of satisfied customers and nobody saying hey there's a botnet bedded into that. Then I opened the patch and red as much of it as I could follow. Then, having applied it, I watched the phone's outgoing firewall logs to see if it was acting surreptitiously - so far it hasn't. A small patch for rooting is bearable, I'd have no way of rationally trusting a patched kernel though and there's a lot of those out there.

    For my phone, the thread was Root,Unroot,CWM,and how to Flash Galaxy Ace S5830i - xda-developers

    Much the same problem arises when trusting apps in general, they're all precompiled and few are open source. I'm sticking to "millions of users" and still watching the outgoing firewall logs regularly.

    I'll become better acquainted with my phone when I get a full-size bluetooth keyboard and mouse. I'll still rely on a laptop for my secure requirements though.
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    Re: Review - Samsung Galaxy Ace (GT-S5830i, 832MHz)

    I concur that xda-developers is a reliable source of info for Android phones. I've flashed a few different ROMs and am currently running CyanogenMod with wireless tether. It comes in very handy when I'm off on a wandrin road trip.

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    I'd feel comfortable with an original CyanogenMod ROM, that's a respectable provenance. At the moment I'm still a long way from feeling restrained by the stock system.
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    Re: Review - Samsung Galaxy Ace (GT-S5830i, 832MHz)

    Merely deleting unwanted apps isn't enough to keep the storage clear for workspace. I had to find one more thread introducing link2sd, and that's created a stable amount of empty storage.

    Boost your Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830i | Michiels blog

    That's a very helpful page and I recommend it.

    I've chosen not to replace the stock ROM, there seems no significant advantage and several quality-control reasons not to. I'm not going to replace the kernel either, though I do think the variable clock speed is something that would be useful. If I want that I'll compile the open-source stock kernel from Samsung and apply the minor patch involved.

    What is annoying is that Samsung have trimmed out support for an external keyboard and mouse from the Bluetooth Stack. Had that been successfully brought back into play in a third-party kernel I'd have jumped at it but nobody's made one. Next time I buy an android phone it'll be a requirement.
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    Re: Review - Samsung Galaxy Ace (GT-S5830i, 832MHz)

    Quote Originally Posted by Týr View Post
    What is annoying is that Samsung have trimmed out support for an external keyboard and mouse from the Bluetooth Stack. Had that been successfully brought back into play in a third-party kernel I'd have jumped at it but nobody's made one. Next time I buy an android phone it'll be a requirement.
    To keep the story up to date, the lack of physical keyboard ended up a deciding factor. When I was presented with an alternative use for the Ace I took it and I've bought a replacement which will take a keyboard.

    My new phone has a 6" FHD screen, letting me browse the Internet more adequately and use an office suite which was impractical on the Ace. It's dual SIM so I now have both my personal and business phone combined into one device.

    I'll pick up a bluetooth mouse and report back on how the phone feels after a few weeks of acclimatization.
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    Re: Review - Samsung Galaxy Ace (GT-S5830i, 832MHz)

    What is it?
    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,”
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    Re: Review - Samsung Galaxy Ace (GT-S5830i, 832MHz)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahso! View Post
    What is it?
    Model: ZOPO ZP990
    CPU: MTK6589T
    RAM: 2GB
    ROM: 32GB
    OS: Android 4.2
    Band: 2G:GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz & 3G: WCDMA 850/2100MHz
    Sim Card: Dual SIM Card Dual Standby(one micro-sim card)
    Service Provide: Unlocked
    Color: White,Black
    Screen Size: 6.0 Inch
    Resolution: 1920*1080

    Buy ZOPO Mobile Phone at Official Authorized Shop

    It lacks 4G support but then, as far as I know, there's no 4G in England yet. I'm not much convinced that 4G would do as much for me as WiFi does and I'm nearly always on a WiFi link.
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    Re: Review - Samsung Galaxy Ace (GT-S5830i, 832MHz)

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    Nice! That's a large phone. I use a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 which is large, but yours is larger and slightly heavier. Mine has a stylus pen, which I get use out of since I take credit cards for my business.

    Enjoy!
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