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    Re: A Request To All English Members of Forum Garden.

    Really interesting words going on there.

    Some words sound really cool which I would love to introduce here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty Boop View Post
    Can you watch Youtube? if so take a look at 'Made in Chelsea', that will give you an idea of the toff's in London and that's what the upper middle classes will be aspiring to be.
    Toffs Yes... but slang JJ would be better watching T.O.W.I.E

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZECrEih6t48

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    It would seem that this young couple do not have children yet ? So maybe they are Dinky's ? Double income no kids yet Ain't the faintest what car they'd have, except maybe one that looked trendy but could carry a decent amount of shopping as they would no doubt have to do a large weekly shop at the weekend. I would also think that they would travel into London by train. You say 'upper middle class' well now the 'posh' one who may have been able to help you is unfortunately no longer with us !

    Perhaps it would be a good idea to obtain a book entitled "Fraffly Suite" ? Or maybe check your local library - the book will amuse you at any rate !

    The link below could be quite useful, as there is a list of 100 top phrases - I do recognise a lot of them which are in regular use by teens and twenties all over the country.

    Top 100 Most Beautiful British Slang Words and Phrases - Guide to English Slang - Anglotopia.net

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowfire View Post
    The working class buy their clothes at Primani (primark....very cheap. Armani...not)

    Things can be Phat, Ream (Good)

    Food can be Munch

    Clothes can be Crisp

    but mostly preceded by "well"


    Ere Snowfire, you've bin wochin' Catherine Tate mate ! She's well bad innit !
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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar View Post
    Toffs Yes... but slang JJ would be better watching T.O.W.I.E

    Joey, James & Arg Chat About Losing Virginity - The Only Way Is Essex - YouTube
    Yes, toffs they aspire to be, they won't be aspiring to be essex louts and they won't use the slang in the same common way.

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    Re: A Request To All English Members of Forum Garden.

    [QUOTE=oscar;1443547]
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    Ere Mrs. Oscar I'm not that owd yer know, so don't insinuate that I'm some sort of owd 'ag /QUOTE] I meant Kazalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala
    Well she's flamin' younger than me !!!!!!!!! so for 'I'm' insert 'Kaz' or 'she's' as appropriate........ Okay ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty Boop View Post
    Yes, toffs they aspire to be, they won't be aspiring to be essex louts and they won't use the slang in the same common way.
    No-where In JJ's OP does he say they are aspiring to be toffs.

    What he says Is :

    "The novel I am currently working on is set in a village outside London. It is a contemporary story with the two main characters, male & female, aged twenty five. They live at home and their families are upper middle class and they work & spend a lot of the time in London."

    Essex Is just outside London and TOWIE's are not louts. They come from middle upper class families with money. Most TOWIE's or their parents work In London.
    For his research, TOWIE Is more what he's looking for than Sloane Rangers.

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    Carol would probably have agreed with you there, as she was a cockney living in Essex.
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    Re: A Request To All English Members of Forum Garden.

    Seems you have a good selection of answers, so I'd just like to point out that having the words is only half of it - using them in the right context is the other half and imo much more difficult. The best way I can think of to do that short of coming over here for a year or two while you write is to absolutely immerse yourself in as much British tv and radio as you can find until it starts sounding normal to you. Then you might have a chance of writing in a convincing vernacular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar View Post
    No-where In JJ's OP does he say they are aspiring to be toffs.

    What he says Is :

    "The novel I am currently working on is set in a village outside London. It is a contemporary story with the two main characters, male & female, aged twenty five. They live at home and their families are upper middle class and they work & spend a lot of the time in London."

    Essex Is just outside London and TOWIE's are not louts. They come from middle upper class families with money. Most TOWIE's or their parents work In London.
    For his research, TOWIE Is more what he's looking for than Sloane Rangers.
    Upper middle class will be aspiring to better themselves by the example set by 'Made in Chelsea' not by the example of TOWIE's who are not upper middle class at all:
    the show represents an image of 'working class people bettering themselves and still being tasteless.'
    The Only Way is Essex and the demonisation of the working class | Mail Online

    So not at all a good recommendation for JJ to base his characters on. Made in Chelsea, albeit an exaggeration of the toff's lives, gives a far better idea of what upper middle classes may be striving towards. After all, no one wants to intentionally take themselves down a class level do they.

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