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    Re: Will our dogs have to be exercised on the lead ALL the time ?

    Well this is one topic I know something about!!!!


    Leash laws, as they are known here in the USA arent are that bad. In a populated area they sever to protect the dog, the dogs owner, and others you may come in contact with; not to mention the property of others be it public or private. Now it may provide protection but granted it does not give the full reign of excises, socialization and play a dog needs and enjoys.


    Here in the US leash laws vary by State, city, county or localities such as dogs in farming areas do not have leash laws, etc. Perhaps this would be a means for your Council to try?


    Sadly for all of the reasons you listed is why these laws have come into force here.

    People too lazy to pick up after their dog, people who dont understand their dogs breed or cant think pass the nose on their face (such as your greyhound example). Or as gmc mentioned people who dont know how to talk dog or read their dogs body language. Sadly it exists whether the dog is on leash or off leash but in a controlled environment there is some resolution.

    Oscar pointed out about the Dog Parks that have become quite popular here in the USA.

    Dog parks are the fastest-growing segment of city parks. There were 569 off-leash dog parks in the 100 largest U.S. cities in 2010, a 34 percent jump in 5 years, while overall parks increased only 3 percent. Portland, Oregon the highest per capita in the USA with 5.7 dog parks for every 100,000 residents. Calgary, AB has the highest per capita in North America, with 15.9 dog parks for every 100,000 residents. There are now more American households with dogs than with kids of 43 million and 38 million respectively. "It's a playground for people without kids." Wikipedia.


    Thats a lot of dogs!


    This is what I know as I over-see a very successful Dog Park that is in its 11th year.

    Oscar suggested volunteers to monitor the Dpk which is how the one I work at started but now has County employees to oversee the Dpk. I think volunteers are a very good start as it gets the community involved but once the Dpk evolves it will need more then volunteers.

    A Dpk really is a business. It is in the business to provide a service and be compensated to continue to ensure that amenity carries on. At this point I dont want to bore any readers but I can tell you this as a fact. As of September 2013 the Dpk had approximately 700 person who had purchased annual park passes (40 US$ for a calendar year ) generating $28,000 and 3,000 daily patrons (5 USD$ per visit) have contribute $15,000. Thats a total of $43,000 to support with upkeep, supplies, staffing, and additions to improve the Dpk. You may be surprised at how many people would use such a facility.

    So perhaps to you who may be pressured into leash laws this may be something to present to your local council?


    If anyone is interested I had posted three threads about my experiences at the Dpk under Dogs, Cats, & all things Pet Related > The Pets in Our Lives.

    http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/pe...-park-1-a.html

    This was the first one..I have no idea if this links works or not so Ill leave it at that.

    And Gill, Jessica is beautiful!! I am so happy to hear she is a rescue! Smart move for both of YOU

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    I take it, then, that dog nappies don't yet exist. maybe I've invented a new retail product without realizing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Týr View Post
    I take it, then, that dog nappies don't yet exist. maybe I've invented a new retail product without realizing it.
    No sorry, Tyr.... you were beaten to It years ago I'm afraid..


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    No sorry, Tyr.... you were beaten to It years ago I'm afraid..


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    Then I call for a change in the law of England and Wales to mandate their use when any dog is on public land, with a fixed penalty of death for all dogs not so equipped. People will no doubt demand exemption for dogs for the blind and police dogs. I see no reason to exclude them.
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    Then I call for a change in the law of England and Wales to mandate their use when any dog is on public land, with a fixed penalty of death for all dogs not so equipped. People will no doubt demand exemption for dogs for the blind and police dogs. I see no reason to exclude them.
    That's just never going to happen Is It ?

    In practical terms, killing dogs who don't wear nappies Is not the solution.

    What Is far more practical Is the Introduction, as Is In the States, of designated, safe dog walking area's where those who don't have dogs, have no business entering.

    It Is scandalous, nay, downright negligent that 39 % of the UK's population Is not catered for.

    Take my area as an example... 1.5 million was spent on creating a skateboarding park for teenagers. That's what ? At a guess, 0.05 of the population. No-one seems to have a problem with that. It gives the teenagers somewhere to go and something to do. Yet, whilst they are catered for, 39 % remain high and dry.

    Designated walking parks mean poo Is kept to the designated area. Women are safe walking their dogs at night and volunteers keep the area maintained and clean. Dogs get to socialise and the streets stay clean. Councils save thousands per year on the cost of removing poo from the streets. Everyone wins.

    Those who would not wish their councils to Invest In such area's are the selfish who don't mind millions being spent on playgrounds for children or skateboarding parks. Anyone who objects to such a proposal deserves all they get, Life Is about compromise. If you want your kids catered for at public expense then do likewise for the 39 %.of dog owners.

    Having said that... I have a field outside my front door that see's I would guess, 100 dogs walked per day. Women feel safe walking their dogs alone because there are buildings on all four sides. There Is a dog poop bin on 4 corners of the field. I can say that I rarely, very rarely see dog poop. The problem Is not as great as you claim.

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    Re: Will our dogs have to be exercised on the lead ALL the time ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Týr View Post
    Then I call for a change in the law of England and Wales to mandate their use when any dog is on public land, with a fixed penalty of death for all dogs not so equipped. People will no doubt demand exemption for dogs for the blind and police dogs. I see no reason to exclude them.
    Týr

    It is a fact of life that if you are lucky enuf to own a dog you are going to take him/her for walks on public land.

    Your suggestion to have all of them wear diapers is ludicrous. Either you are a total jerk or just trying to get arise out of some...well it worked!

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    Re: Will our dogs have to be exercised on the lead ALL the time ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady J View Post
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    It is a fact of life that if you are lucky enuf to own a dog you are going to take him/her for walks on public land.

    Your suggestion to have all of them wear diapers is ludicrous. Either you are a total jerk or just trying to get arise out of some...well it worked!

    Here this is for you.
    I was told dog diapers exist. What are they for if not to keep streets clear of dogfilth? I walked two miles along a paved national coastal path the other week and had to steer my child past twenty piles of the stuff. Even in the centre of town I have to maneuver him around it. People blunder into it and spread it for yards in all directions. would anyone like me to carry a camera for a day and post the results?

    How oscar expects these damned pointless ill-bred monstrosities to get to her designated dog-toilet parks without walking through public streets has me baffled.

    Putting down all dogs found on public land without a diaper seems eminently sensible. Nothing else has worked, killing them is guaranteed to. Anyone who wants an undiapered dog can keep it - and its pollution - at home.

    As for trying to get a rise, on the contrary - I detest these wretched animals for a host of good reasons, their promiscuous crap being high on the list.
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    Tell me... Imagine the scenario.... you are out with your grandchildren on public land having a picnic. They are too old to use diapers. You are no-where near a public toilet...You grandchild has no choice but to squat behind a bush and relieve herself.

    Death ?

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    Re: Will our dogs have to be exercised on the lead ALL the time ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Týr View Post
    I was told dog diapers exist. What are they for if not to keep streets clear of dogfilth? I walked two miles along a paved national coastal path the other week and had to steer my child past twenty piles of the stuff. Even in the centre of town I have to maneuver him around it. People blunder into it and spread it for yards in all directions. would anyone like me to carry a camera for a day and post the results?

    How oscar expects these damned pointless ill-bred monstrosities to get to her designated dog-toilet parks without walking through public streets has me baffled.

    Putting down all dogs found on public land without a diaper seems eminently sensible. Nothing else has worked, killing them is guaranteed to. Anyone who wants an undiapered dog can keep it - and its pollution - at home.

    As for trying to get a rise, on the contrary - I detest these wretched animals for a host of good reasons, their promiscuous crap being high on the list.
    As It happens, I am In agreement with you on dog owners who do not pick up. Yes, It's a fair point that dogs may defecate on their way to a dog park but In built up area's, the journey may be relatively short and from my experience, dogs don't often poo the moment they are out of the door... It takes exercise to stir the bowel and It's more likely the bulk of poo would be In the park.

    Now... talking of filth. This Is where you live... Bristol City centre. I live, thankfully, on the border In semi-rural South Gloucestershire. I say thankfully because any time I have been to the city centre, It Is filthy. Due to the smoking ban, benches are littered with beer cans, empty bottles and cigg butts.


    Bristol, 4.30am, covered in letter. Should taxpayers pay to clean this up? | Bristol Post

    Now, when Bristol Council have completely addressed the filth left by humans, I may sympathise further on dog poo. People In glass houses and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar View Post
    Tell me... Imagine the scenario.... you are out with your grandchildren on public land having a picnic. They are too old to use diapers. You are no-where near a public toilet...You grandchild has no choice but to squat behind a bush and relieve herself.

    Death ?
    Firstly, every dog appears to be taken out onto public land for the express purpose of defecating, unlike my children. Secondly, no child of mine has ever defecated on public land to my knowledge other than with the aid of an entrenching tool. Were your circumstances to have actually happened I have no doubt I'd have handed over my hat. Or a carrier bag. Or both.

    Secondly, neither of my earlier instances happened within a hundred miles of Bristol.
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