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    Re: Gerry Adams arrested on suspicion of Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by gmc View Post
    It always puzzles me that pro ira people like fuzzywuzzy and some in the states seem to be under the delusion that the ira actually have mass support in ireland and some are unaware that the irish republic exists and the English no longer have any troops there.

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    The UDA started in 1971 and are just as big a bunch of hypocritical murdering thugs as the ira attacking mainly unarmed civilians. Anyone who thinks this isn't about religion is kidding themselves.
    I totally agree with you. Since 1972, hundreds of UDA members are serving life sentences for murder and violent offences, In the main against civilians.
    It's always been about religion and exactly why bombing London train stations and shops Is so futile when the dead are of both Catholic and Protestant along with other nationalities caught up In It. That's why IRA bombings were never about targeting the enemy they claimed as their cause ie British Armed Forces but just mindless violence to hold Thatcher to ransom.
    It's why even the people of Northern Ireland have nothing but contempt for them and their backers and supporters. Every bomb targeting civilians actually set back the Peace Process In Ireland and they knew It. Not only did they know It, they continued to target civilians... a Unified Ireland my arsse.

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    Re: Gerry Adams arrested on suspicion of Murder

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    They dragged a woman out of her house a slaughtered her and beat her oldest child of 11 and threatened to kill him and his family if he told anyone who they were. In what way do you think that was the action of romantic freedom fighters? In what way is it romantic to kneecap teenagers for unacceptable behavior? when hamas do the same in the gaza strip are they romantic freedom fighters or a terrorist organisation?

    Do you think terrorism is always justified when it's done in the cause of freedom?

    Ummmmmm Who said Romantic? Since when were freedom fighters romantic ya effing twat? Why am I being accused for the second time in this thread for saying something I haven't? Get off the drugs man!!! Although I think the new 'Reals' have some if you want them .

    Oh and btw people were kneecapped when they did something wrong and drew unwanted attention to others . and mostly they were warned not to do things again sometimes up to 6 times. Harsh justice I know but they were fighting a war. and that **** happens.

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    Re: Gerry Adams arrested on suspicion of Murder

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    We all know how England acted to turn every war killing into a "murder" and not an act of war. We all know about the hunger strikes and Thatchers bull**** and broken promises, she has more blood on her hands and those of the British armed forces in the north of Ireland than either of the loyalists or the Ra.
    **** happens in War . It would take centuries to go through everything that happens in a war. You're just biased.
    The Proviso wasn't up ...it was a court decision in another country that had those tapes released . Shafted again.
    Since when were freedom fighters romantic ya effing twat?
    throughout history.

    You really do seem to think this is some kind of noble conflict that justifies the use of terror and the killing and maiming of women and children. You also dodged my question - if hamas or al queda do the same kind of thing are they terrorists or freedom fighters.

    How about the brave protestants fighting to save their religion and country from the threat of domination by the catholic church which from their point iof view is what is at the back of it all. Ireland was partitioned because the protestants had made it clear they would go to war to prevent and the first irish government accepted that reality

    Oh and btw people were kneecapped when they did something wrong and drew unwanted attention to others . and mostly they were warned not to do things again sometimes up to 6 times. Harsh justice I know but they were fighting a war. and that **** happens.
    Yeah right. How would you react to vigilante gang crippling one of your neighbors children just because he was a bit wild? You do understand kneecapping was not something you ever recovered from you were crippled for life.

    Sod it, if you can find it in your heart to justify that kind of atrocity and can't see it as an unspeakable act designed to terrorise a population I'm not going to waste any more time talking to you.

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    Re: Gerry Adams arrested on suspicion of Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by gmc View Post
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    throughout history.

    You really do seem to think this is some kind of noble conflict that justifies the use of terror and the killing and maiming of women and children. You also dodged my question - if hamas or al queda do the same kind of thing are they terrorists or freedom fighters.

    How about the brave protestants fighting to save their religion and country from the threat of domination by the catholic church which from their point iof view is what is at the back of it all. Ireland was partitioned because the protestants had made it clear they would go to war to prevent and the first irish government accepted that reality



    Yeah right. How would you react to vigilante gang crippling one of your neighbors children just because he was a bit wild? You do understand kneecapping was not something you ever recovered from you were crippled for life.

    Sod it, if you can find it in your heart to justify that kind of atrocity and can't see it as an unspeakable act designed to terrorise a population I'm not going to waste any more time talking to you.
    Fuzzy has also dodged my questions and she will continue dodging them ( yer effing twat ) For the simple reason that joining an IRA supporters forum as she did does not actually give you enough fact In order to debate sensibly. They think throwing up the odd key word such as ' Good Friday Agreement', Thatcher or Peace Process, It makes them sound authorities on the subject.

    The Irony with that Is I have a damn good memory and remember Fuzzy crying her eyes out on this forum when Al Qaeda killed 88 Australians In the Bali bombing. In fact, I particually remember her exaltation when Imam Samudra, Amrozi Nurhasyim and Huda bin Abdul Haq were executed by firing squad.
    I noted her her reference and hatred toward Thatcher for all her sins for refusing to pander to hunger strikers. Perhaps Fuzzy Is one of those females who also joined the Bobby Sands fan club, I don't know.
    Yet, hypocritical In the extreme eh ? Thatcher would never negotiate with terrorists and let them die. This apparently justifies bombing the Grand Hotel In my home town to kill Thatcher and her Cabinet. But again, Innocent hotel workers were caught up In It, Including my ex husband, a Fireman who specialised In chemical and electrical fires.
    So although I am In no doubt Fuzzy will dodge the questions again, how about this ?
    So she relished In the joy at the executions of the Bali bombers because It killed 88 Australians but how would she have felt If our governments Instead had stepped In and negotiated with Jemaah Islamiah, a terrorist cell of Al Qaeda? After all, that's what pro IRA supporters believe Thatcher should have done. Is she all for our governments to negotiate with Al Qaeda even Hamas or does that just apply when Australians get blown up ? I think we know the answer. Maybe those 88 dead Australians were Collateral damage to the war eh Fuzzy ?
    That's why Pro IRA supporters are uneducated morons bereft of fact, history and understanding and will never be able to justify blowing up civilian children In shopping Malls even If they lived to be 500 years old.

    eta.... Here's another one Fuzzy but I am sure you will dodge this also. If by your reckoning deaths of Innocent children and civilians should be put Into perspective In ' the war' then what your saying Is, we should also give amnesty to the British Army for opening fire and killing 26 Innocent civilians In Bogside In 1972 ? So we let Gerry Adams off and we allow the British Army off also ? Yeah right !!!!

    As for Gerry Adams, I don't actually think much will come of It. I don't know what Is on those tapes the FBI has released but I am doubting he'll be charged... what do you think Auld Yin ?

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    Re: Gerry Adams arrested on suspicion of Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar Mate View Post
    Fuzzy has also dodged my questions and she will continue dodging them ( yer effing twat ) For the simple reason that joining an IRA supporters forum as she did does not actually give you enough fact In order to debate sensibly. They think throwing up the odd key word such as ' Good Friday Agreement', Thatcher or Peace Process, It makes them sound authorities on the subject.

    The Irony with that Is I have a damn good memory and remember Fuzzy crying her eyes out on this forum when Al Qaeda killed 88 Australians In the Bali bombing. In fact, I particually remember her exaltation when Imam Samudra, Amrozi Nurhasyim and Huda bin Abdul Haq were executed by firing squad.
    I noted her her reference and hatred toward Thatcher for all her sins for refusing to pander to hunger strikers. Perhaps Fuzzy Is one of those females who also joined the Bobby Sands fan club, I don't know.
    Yet, hypocritical In the extreme eh ? Thatcher would never negotiate with terrorists and let them die. This apparently justifies bombing the Grand Hotel In my home town to kill Thatcher and her Cabinet. But again, Innocent hotel workers were caught up In It, Including my ex husband, a Fireman who specialised In chemical and electrical fires.
    So although I am In no doubt Fuzzy will dodge the questions again, how about this ?
    So she relished In the joy at the executions of the Bali bombers because It killed 88 Australians but how would she have felt If our governments Instead had stepped In and negotiated with Jemaah Islamiah, a terrorist cell of Al Qaeda? After all, that's what pro IRA supporters believe Thatcher should have done. Is she all for our governments to negotiate with Al Qaeda even Hamas or does that just apply when Australians get blown up ? I think we know the answer. Maybe those 88 dead Australians were Collateral damage to the war eh Fuzzy ?
    That's why Pro IRA supporters are uneducated morons bereft of fact, history and understanding and will never be able to justify blowing up civilian children In shopping Malls even If they lived to be 500 years old.

    As for Gerry Adams, I don't actually think much will come of It. I don't know what Is on those tapes the FBI has released but I am doubting he'll be charged... what do you think Auld Yin ?
    Can't say i totally agree with you mysterious oscar person. The only way it will end is if people can forgive and forget atrocities from both sides I just cannot see it anytime soon. I don't know if gerry adams was involved in any killing directly but he must have known who was involved - so must ian paisley et al on the protestant side. If you could just stop religion getting in the way of peace but no one seems to see this as the result of religious bigotry that is perpetuating itself.

    It would end in a generation if they ended separate schooling and mixed all the children together and kept religion out of the classroom but in the name of religious freedom we allow separate schools - just got worse thanks to tony blair and his academies now we have islam added in to the mix. Cameron was wrong we are not a christian nation we are a secular one for the simple reason that when we were a christian nation the carnage was so appalling we ended up with a tacit agreement that we should all leave each to their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmc View Post
    Can't say i totally agree with you mysterious oscar person. The only way it will end is if people can forgive and forget atrocities from both sides I just cannot see it anytime soon. I don't know if gerry adams was involved in any killing directly but he must have known who was involved - so must ian paisley et al on the protestant side. If you could just stop religion getting in the way of peace but no one seems to see this as the result of religious bigotry that is perpetuating itself.

    It would end in a generation if they ended separate schooling and mixed all the children together and kept religion out of the classroom but in the name of religious freedom we allow separate schools - just got worse thanks to tony blair and his academies now we have islam added in to the mix. Cameron was wrong we are not a christian nation we are a secular one for the simple reason that when we were a christian nation the carnage was so appalling we ended up with a tacit agreement that we should all leave each to their own.
    I agree effing twat.

    The Irony being of course Is that England Is heading the exact same way with segregation In schools. It could In many years to come turn Into another Ireland and the EDL becoming the IRA.

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    LOL I'll just let you two get on with it and come back when you've finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzywuzzy View Post
    LOL I'll just let you two get on with it and come back when you've finished.
    Come back when you've read a little on the subject and understand that the Good Friday Agreement does not cover civilian murders along with understanding that Gerry Adams has not been questioned by police over that particular murder ' many times '.
    Come back when you have an explanation as to why the IRA targeted train stations, hotels, war memorials, and why they blew Innocent children to pieces. Then we'll pay attention to you.

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    go on ..get it all out of your system . I'll correct you later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzywuzzy View Post
    go on ..get it all out of your system . I'll correct you later.
    I think what you really mean Is... I can't answer these questions so can you give me some time so I can ask on the Sinn Féin forum ?

    Because surely If you had the answers yourself, you would have given them off pat by now. Why the wait ?

    I think we know.

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