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    Re: Plumber's - Is there a Plumber in the Garden? - Help

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    A picture would show you a hole at the end of the tub
    the hole is the size of a tennis ball - not much room to work in.

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    Re: Plumber's - Is there a Plumber in the Garden? - Help

    Quote Originally Posted by Patsy Warnick View Post
    Bruv
    A picture would show you a hole at the end of the tub
    the hole is the size of a tennis ball - not much room to work in.

    Patsy
    Then any levers or mechanism is somewhere else.
    We don't need to see the cosmetic finish to the tub, but the 'workings' underneath the bonnet so to speak........that will be where the problem can be found, I suspect.
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    Re: Plumber's - Is there a Plumber in the Garden? - Help

    I found this link - not that it's likely to be any real help:

    How to Fix a Bathtub or Sink Pop-up Stopper | HomeTips

    I also found a comment on another forum that may be worth considering.
    If you live in a Hard Water area (if in the UK, generally to the South) it is possible that the works have been scaled up, in which case, soaking it overnight in a descaler, such as Scaleaway (or even vinegar) may do the trick. The post also mentioned that older tubs are often subject to corrosion, so I'm not sure if the same remedy would work in this instance. If it was I imagine the WD40 would have already fixed that possibility. Either way, a try at a descaler wouldn't do any harm - vinegar certainly wouldn't although, obviously, a proper descaler would be likely to do a better job.

    Living in a very hard water area myself I regularly need to descale my kettle & coffee machine, which is why I keep a supply of Scale-Away sachets handy. The stuff works wonders. Just mix in with a jug of hot water, leave overnight & in the morning you're left with a brand new shiny element. Of course, for that sort of thing it then requires a lot of rinsing through afterwards, but that's no problem.

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    Re: Plumber's - Is there a Plumber in the Garden? - Help

    Quote Originally Posted by Patsy Warnick View Post
    We can see the arm mechanism that's suppose to lift up.
    it's not a nut or bolt adjustment.

    Bruv - a toggle handle in the tub is what one uses to plug or unplug the tub - and the actual arm your trying to lift can be seen - & touched and is still hooked to the plug - it just won't budge.

    Is my tub enclosed - yes, with beautiful tile and the Tub is a jet/ Jacuzzi tub.

    Bryn - your right - it's frozen in plug position. Our plumber tried that gentle persuasion.

    right now we're trying that Liquid Drain cleaner - maybe some thing around the plug will give?

    Patsy
    Corrosives at the plug end will not help, you need lubricants on the joints of the activating mechanism.

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    Just stay in the tub and keep adding hot water hun!

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    Bryn
    Plumber was aggressive and was afraid of breaking the joint/arm so we've sprayed with the lubricants - all day - it's frozen.

    Fourpart
    We're in hard water Country and I never thought of the hard water being a problem so I will try a descale solution & will check out the link.
    Makes sense the hard water could contribute to seizing the actual plug - but if that arm/joint mechanism doesn't move to the up position !!!

    Oh, I see this problem opening a can of Mess - like a bathroom redo and a unnecessary one.
    Not sure what to do - Several Plumbers have NO answer

    I have a headache
    Patsy

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    Re: Plumber's - Is there a Plumber in the Garden? - Help

    Wow, Patsy the problem seems so simple, yet it's becoming a great hassle & expense! No wonder you have a headache!

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    Re: Plumber's - Is there a Plumber in the Garden? - Help

    Quote Originally Posted by Patsy Warnick View Post
    Bryn
    Plumber was aggressive and was afraid of breaking the joint/arm so we've sprayed with the lubricants - all day - it's frozen.

    Fourpart
    We're in hard water Country and I never thought of the hard water being a problem so I will try a descale solution & will check out the link.
    Makes sense the hard water could contribute to seizing the actual plug - but if that arm/joint mechanism doesn't move to the up position !!!

    Oh, I see this problem opening a can of Mess - like a bathroom redo and a unnecessary one.
    Not sure what to do - Several Plumbers have NO answer

    I have a head ache
    Patsy
    Patsy, (not a plumber here) but be careful of using harsh chemicals if you haven't already. If drain is plugged, harsh chemical water won't go down, and now you have the problem of "removing" that chemical water manually. If all else fails, as last resort, try to drill out a hole in the stopper to let the water go down the drain. Of course the stopper will no longer work, but at least the water will go down. Actually I've seen rubber flat plate type stoppers that could cover the tub hole to hold water in it. Sounds drastic, but seems like a drastic situation.
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    Re: Plumber's - Is there a Plumber in the Garden? - Help

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    We can't get to the stopper/plug.
    We have a small pump which We drain tub water out the bathroom window.

    If we could get to the actual plug & drill it - remove it - or just get it to pull up but We can't. I can get any other plug for the tub.
    The actual arm mechanism won't move - can't get to the plug without removing a tile wall or the tub itself.

    We're still calling around for a Plumber's idea?
    Thanks
    Patsy

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    Are you saying the levers/mechanism is permanently tiled over ?
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