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    Latest UN Report on Climate change

    This latest report pulls no punches, it made me sit up and listen.
    I wonder if it is the definitive irrefutable last word on the subject, and if it is, will anything happen globally to halt the inevitable ?

    UN Report

    “Severe and pervasive” negative impacts from climate change
    I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth

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    Re: Latest UN Report on Climate change

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    This latest report pulls no punches, it made me sit up and listen.
    I wonder if it is the definitive irrefutable last word on the subject, and if it is, will anything happen globally to halt the inevitable ?

    UN Report

    “Severe and pervasive” negative impacts from climate change
    I suspect that we have passed the tipping point, and whatever will happen as a result will happen.
    Given how little we really understand of the system in which we live, I hold little hope that we will be able to have any significant, immediate affect.
    True, if we stop burning fossil fuels, we may halt our contribution to the ongoing process, but that is going to take a couple more generational shifts.
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    Re: Latest UN Report on Climate change

    Reminds me of the saying

    "Everybody Talks About the Weather, But Nobody Does Anything About It."

    hmm

    So now with all our technology, etc. the answer to avoid some supposed doom and gloom is to crawl into caves warmed by camp fires.

    Too bad we can't pass a law to prohibit third world nations from advancing to first world levels.

    It should work if we promise to give up our first world life styles just to live in impoverished diseased existence.
    “The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men,
    Gang aft agley.
    An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
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    Re: Latest UN Report on Climate change

    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post
    Reminds me of the saying

    "Everybody Talks About the Weather, But Nobody Does Anything About It."

    hmm

    So now with all our technology, etc. the answer to avoid some supposed doom and gloom is to crawl into caves warmed by camp fires.

    Too bad we can't pass a law to prohibit third world nations from advancing to first world levels.

    It should work if we promise to give up our first world life styles just to live in impoverished diseased existence.
    Sadly, far too many people in the "Civilized world" see that as the only choice, and so have refused, and continue to refuse to do anything about the problem.
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    Re: Latest UN Report on Climate change

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    This latest report pulls no punches, it made me sit up and listen.
    I wonder if it is the definitive irrefutable last word on the subject, and if it is, will anything happen globally to halt the inevitable ?

    UN Report

    “Severe and pervasive” negative impacts from climate change
    No and No.

    From an adjacent article in tghe same paper.

    If you still believe in 'climate change' read this… – Telegraph Blogs

    None of the projected disastrous effects of climate change exists in the present but only in an imaginary future (which may never come to pass: these are only unverifiable computer model "projections", remember). So we ought, when considering our expensive prevention/mitigation policies, factor in the key point that "future generations" are going to be richer than we are and therefore better able to pay for any problems that "climate change" may cause them.
    We've had it time and time again where people have been aware of the consequences of their actions be it de-forestation, over-farming, overfishing or modern day fracking and gone ahead and done it anyway.

    How about that current argument that seems popular amongst the born agains that God would not allow man to destroy the earth, kind of throws free-will out the window but neber let it be said logic and reason would hinder a good argument.

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    Re: Latest UN Report on Climate change

    It all seems to come down to 'Opinion'
    Surely even if the so called scientific 'proof' is questionable it would be better to err on the right side and take action sooner rather than later.....just in case.
    I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth

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    Re: Latest UN Report on Climate change

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    It all seems to come down to 'Opinion'
    Surely even if the so called scientific 'proof' is questionable it would be better to err on the right side and take action sooner rather than later.....just in case.
    All things considered, I would rather be warm in the winter and cool in the summer.

    The only err is not recognize there is nothing we can do about it.

    This whole concept we can change the weather is a

    FAIL

    Worry about weather which we can't control.

    There is the one thing civilized people could control,

    IRAN and NUKEs
    “The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men,
    Gang aft agley.
    An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
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    Re: Latest UN Report on Climate change

    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post
    All things considered, I would rather be warm in the winter and cool in the summer.

    The only err is not recognize there is nothing we can do about it.

    This whole concept we can change the weather is a

    FAIL

    Worry about weather which we can't control.

    There is the one thing civilized people could control,

    IRAN and NUKEs
    It is not so much controlling the weather that they are suggesting, but halting the continuous increase of CO2 into that atmosphere.
    And the assumption that we must give up our way of life to do so is fairly short-sighted.

    We have the technology, and we have the ability to come up with ways to solve the problem.
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    Re: Latest UN Report on Climate change

    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post
    All things considered, I would rather be warm in the winter and cool in the summer.

    The only err is not recognize there is nothing we can do about it.

    This whole concept we can change the weather is a

    FAIL

    Worry about weather which we can't control.

    There is the one thing civilized people could control,

    IRAN and NUKEs
    And THAT is only your opinion.
    Learned people who have studied for years might have a different 'opinion' based on more information than you.

    Man has been controlling the affects of weather for centuries, that is why hundreds die in third world countries every monsoon season, while first world countries batten down the hatches and suffer relatively little whatever the the climate throws at them.
    I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth

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    Re: Latest UN Report on Climate change

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    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post
    All things considered, I would rather be warm in the winter and cool in the summer.

    The only err is not recognize there is nothing we can do about it.

    This whole concept we can change the weather is a

    FAIL

    Worry about weather which we can't control.

    There is the one thing civilized people could control,

    IRAN and NUKEs
    Firstly we're talking about climate, not weather and they are totally different things. The weather we can do very little about (local manipulation of rainfall is about the sum of it) and we cannot even predict it beyond a few days. Climate, on the other hand, is predictable and we are already manipulating it.

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