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    Re: The criminal attack on the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo

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    This really is your consistent level of deception, isn't it. You complain of killing innocent human beings - not targeting but killing. You then go ballistic at the suggestion "we" target innocents. I never suggested "we" did, I said the drone-pilots under your President's command are killing innocents on a regular basis. Or have you never heard the expression "collateral damage"? NO ONE, for any reason, has the right to kill innocent human beings.
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    Re: The criminal attack on the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo

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    Nobody has a right to kill human beings, innocent, or otherwise.
    And yet Nation States abrogate to themselves exactly that right, and delegate it to their agents. My own belief is that the moral code applied to people should equally apply to Nation States, though it never has.

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    Re: The criminal attack on the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo

    It is claimed that the reason for the attack was their cartoons. Personally I doubt this is the case. Sure, it was a useful opportunity as it was a low security, easy target, with a high profile which would give them maximum publicity for their 'cause', and it is in this that they have succeeded in exactly that, goal, just as the very existence of this thread demonstrates.

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    Re: The criminal attack on the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo

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    I note the observation by French President Francois Hollande: "We knew we were threatened because we are a country of freedom".

    Would it were so. The French government, along with that of Britain and the US, has blood on its hands. Had the Western government responses to the criminal acts of 9/11 been criminal investigation, apprehension and prosecution, today's form of asymmetric criminal backlash would never have started at all.

    The deliberate long-term destruction of society in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria by those governments which chose to participate - which includes the French - is the prime cause of the radicalization which is now expressed in uncompromising criminal outrages like that of today.

    To merely blame the criminal radicals is to entirely miss the point. This degree of backlash was predictable and inevitable. I'm quite sure that, for many of the chief instigators on both sides, it was the intended outcome.

    Obviously those who carried and used the rifles today must be found and prosecuted. Those who stirred up the hornet nest for their own benefit in the first place are equally blameworthy. France can scarcely call itself a country of freedom after tearing the heart out of so many functioning Middle-Eastern countries. Freely joining in this mayhem was a pact made by choice.
    You took my thoughts and put them deftly into words. I am with you 1000%.

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    Re: The criminal attack on the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo

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    I've said my peace. Terrorists are evil. All men of good conscience must stand against them without reservation.

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    Yeah, but you bought the doublespeak, seeing us as righteous heralds of democracy and they as terrorists. We men of good conscience have no representation at the office of Big Brother. Now, if you believe that we (the men of good conscience) can disarm both the antagonist and the responder ..... well! Lead on!

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    Re: The criminal attack on the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo

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    I suggest you pass that on to your bloody-handed President, the drone-pilots under his command are doing just that on a regular basis.


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    Re: The criminal attack on the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo

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    Good lord no. You suggested " It is staple for radical Islamist when opportunity strikes to murder Jews"
    I didn't suggest, it was a statement of fact.

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    and I offered what might be his rationale in that I expect the chap who went there was peeved ove the continuing fate of the Palestinian enclaves.
    I suppose that work just as well.

    HE WAS BENT ON MURDERING INNOCENT JEWS.

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    Of course it's not the answer. One answer would be to make the laws and constitution of Israel blind to ethnicity and religious identification.
    NO

    Would I like to see certain changes in the laws, yea.

    All that has zilch to do with anything.

    The Arabs just want Jews gone

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    All murdering Jews in France achieves is increased tensions - I'm sure increased tensions was an intended aim too. Let's try not rising to the bait.
    HUH?

    bait ?
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    Re: The criminal attack on the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo

    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post
    Thank you, I'll add that to my list.
    Your list of what?

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    Re: The criminal attack on the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo

    Why don't all the so called free press in the free west, exercise the press freedoms they hold so high and declare a day and publish the content that is supposed to have caused this out rage ?

    And that is a serious question.
    I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnneBoleyn View Post
    Your list of what?
    That was a proper question.

    To answer might hijack the thread.

    There is no actual list. Just call what I said 'poetic license'.
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