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    Re: Donald Trump?

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    Hiya Wisey.

    The most who-he VP in living memory has to be Walter Mondale. Who is, oddly enough, still alive. Did anyone ever hear him speak? Was he inspiring?
    Who?
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    Just pile in and sign it...............humiliate the buffoon
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    Don't think they're taking sigs any more, now that it's been done.

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    Re: Donald Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    Hiya Wisey.

    The most who-he VP in living memory has to be Walter Mondale. Who is, oddly enough, still alive. Did anyone ever hear him speak? Was he inspiring?
    Uh, no, and no.

    It seems that back in the day, VP's had a natural ascension to be the next candidate for which ever party. Now they seem to pick someone that they can put behind the curtains or is not electable.

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    Re: Donald Trump?

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    Hiya Wisey.

    The most who he VP in living memory has to be Walter Mondale. Who is, oddly enough, still alive. Did anyone ever hear him speak? Was he inspiring?
    Leaving it to living memory is truly short sighted.

    In the 20th century

    1901 Theodore Roosevelt succeed William McKinley

    1923 Calvin Coolidge succeed Warren Harding

    1945 Harry Truman succeeded Franklin D Roosevelt

    1963 Lyndon Johnson succeeded John Kennedy

    So out of 18 presidents four after the death of the President step up into the Oval Office. Of the above list of VP's who stepped in none was the first choice, but all left a legacy.

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    So out of 18 presidents four after the death of the President step up into the Oval Office. Of the above list of VP's who stepped in none was the first choice, but all left a legacy.
    So did those who took Buggins' turn and became President through election after serving their time as VP, one an honourable man, Richard Nixon, the other a warmongering disgrace to the office of President, George Bush the Elder. Thank goodness Cheney didn't make a third.
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    I don't think I've ever seen the rise to power of a Demagogue before, but I think I'm seeing for the first time how it happens.

    Here, encapsulating Donald Trump in one paragraph, is Wikipedia:
    A demagogue or rabble-rouser is a political leader in a democracy who appeals to the emotions, fears, prejudices, and ignorance of the lower socioeconomic classes in order to gain power and promote political motives. Demagogues usually oppose deliberation and advocate immediate, violent action to address a national crisis; they accuse moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness. Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. They exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, nothing stops the people from giving that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.

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    I tend to agree with you Mr. spot !
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    Re: Donald Trump?

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    This pretty well says it all, as far as I am concerned:
    White supremacist groups credit surging interest to Donald Trump: 'He's certainly creating a movement'

    As the Republican Party grows more and more concerned about Donald Trump, at least one group is loving his rise to prominence: white supremacists. Politico reports that the white supremacist website Stormfront has had to upgrade its servers to handle all the new traffic coming their way since Trump took off in the polls; the Ku Klux Klan confirms that Trump has served as a major talking point for feeling out recruits.

    "He's made it okay to talk about these incredible concerns of European Americans today," former KKK grand wizard and onetime Louisiana representative David Duke said.

    Hate group monitors at the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and the Anti-Defamation League warn that Trump's statements about banning Muslims and rounding up Mexicans have "energized" racist intellectuals and neo-Nazis. "When well-known public figures make these kind of statements in the public square, they are taken as a permission-giving by criminal elements who go out and act on their words," SPLC's Mark Potak told Politico.

    But some white supremacists remain skeptical of Trump's plans. "Do we honestly believe that he's going to block all the Muslims and deport all the illegals? I think he's doing a lot of this just to signal to people that he's on their side," Brad Griffin of the white nationalist blog Occidental Dissent said.

    "He'd have to employ the military to do it, and I don't think they're going to do that," agreed former KKK leader Tom Metzger.

    But that doesn't seem to bother him too much. "As long as [Trump is] causing chaos and havoc with the citizens, he's fine with me," Metzger said. "I love it."

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