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    How did Oz come about for Australia?

    It's a matter of pronunciation. QZTRALIA, MELBIN for MELBOURNE------Got it?

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    Re: How did Oz come about for Australia?

    Why do americans say ass instead of arse? speech defect they cannot pronounce their r's properly.

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    Re: How did Oz come about for Australia?

    Because there are only three letters in ass, easier to spell.

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    Re: How did Oz come about for Australia?

    Yanks have no problem pronouncing R's. Just listen to someone from Boston.
    Arse isn't used primarily because ASS is what is seen in most print that Americans read ,also, Phonetics has something to do with it. We hear ASS and not ARSE.

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    Re: How did Oz come about for Australia?

    Or could it be Americans are calling people donkeys?

    Now.....about the Oz thing, the Australians have a quaint way of embellishing the English language, they call themselves Aussies, so it's not such a big step to shorten that to Oz ?
    I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth

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    Re: How did Oz come about for Australia?

    I believe it's more a case that the original settlers were not exactly literate & the level of future literacy followed suit, as can be seen by most Spellcheckers, constantly highlighting words that we know to be spelt correctly.

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    Re: How did Oz come about for Australia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    Yanks have no problem pronouncing R's. Just listen to someone from Boston.
    Arse isn't used primarily because ASS is what is seen in most print that Americans read ,also, Phonetics has something to do with it. We hear ASS and not ARSE.
    That's what I just said they can't pronounce their r's properly that's why they hear ass instead of arse. I read somewhere it's a hangover from the english settler who in the main could not pronounce their r's. Also they used to talk about the erse irish

    Erse | Define Erse at Dictionary.com

    (gaelic/bog irish) it was an insult morphed in to modern day english although that is only my opinion and I don't claim to be an expert in linguistics. Makes sense though many early sttlers would have had a prejudice against the irish. Calling someone a backside is not much of an insult thoiugh there are plenty of references to erse irish. Ameican fascination with anal sex does seem a little odd if not to say perverse you're an arse is just not much of an insult arsehole seems to suggest some kind of wishful thinking.

    A lot of english people can't either southern english sound stupid to someone (I believe they calll it estuary english now) from the north because they speak so slowly (they also sound effeminate) americans from the deep south sound stupid to a nertherner because they speak slowly maybe people assume rate of speech reflects on the speed of the underlying thought processes. Language changes over time and with regions when did wicked come to mean good and sick the same, rap used to mean to strike something with your knuckles people from just fifty years ago would have trouble following a modern teenage english conversation

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    Re: How did Oz come about for Australia?

    Calling somebody an arse is NOT much of an insult ?
    I would disagree.
    I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth

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    Re: How did Oz come about for Australia?

    As I understand it the colonials stuck more faithfully to the English that was spoken at the time they left than we did at home so, as we moved on, their idiom and pronunciation became more and more old fashioned to our ears.

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    Re: How did Oz come about for Australia?

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    As I understand it the colonials stuck more faithfully to the English that was spoken at the time they left than we did at home so, as we moved on, their idiom and pronunciation became more and more old fashioned to our ears.
    Bit of that as well I suppose the way they pronounce words like complex and produce always sounds odd to me as well

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    Calling somebody an arse is NOT much of an insult ?
    I would disagree.
    Not really no - you're a bottom come off it it just makes me laugh. Wanker, tosser, are worse at least they have the virtue of being descriptive. Just my opinion though, I've got to the point in life where someone trying to insult me doesn't bother me very much after all it's up to me how I react mostly I just don't care.

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