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    Re: Will President Trump run for a second term?

    Quote Originally Posted by YZGI View Post
    So, their ONLY job is to investigate the legally elected POTUS?

    Maybe if they cared more about our country, and less about blocking every move the POTUS tries to make we could get some things done to help our citizens.
    Here’s John Boehner, the likely speaker if Republicans take the House, offering his plans for Obama’s agenda: “We're going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan to National Journal: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”
    https://www.politico.com/story/2010/...-pledge-044311
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    Re: Will President Trump run for a second term?

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    Here’s John Boehner, the likely speaker if Republicans take the House, offering his plans for Obama’s agenda: “We're going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan to National Journal: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”
    https://www.politico.com/story/2010/...-pledge-044311
    Yes, and it was just as stupid then as it is now. The same good ole boy network is in both parties. I'm tired of it. People seem too stupid to vote out all these incumbents (on both sides) that have no agenda but to get wealthy off the backs of tax payers.

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    Re: Will President Trump run for a second term?

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    Then WHY was he voted in as President ? You Americans are as daft as us Brits ! Gill hangs her head in despair and shuffles away to the peace and quiet of her study and the temptation of a good book to carry on reading. ('ere, did you like that bit about my 'study' - a lot of folks call that room a lavatory, and some even give it a name 'John' Oops, sorry Mr. spot !)
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    Re: Will President Trump run for a second term?

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    Yes, and it was just as stupid then as it is now. The same good ole boy network is in both parties. I'm tired of it. People seem too stupid to vote out all these incumbents (on both sides) that have no agenda but to get wealthy off the backs of tax payers.
    Most of the people in the wings are only good-ole-boy in waiting that have come up through the same political system. I think it's better to define the overall underlying issue that sustains the network you speak of that profits off the taxpayer.

    What do you think that might be? I think the problem is capitalism.
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    Re: Will President Trump run for a second term?

    Quote Originally Posted by YZGI View Post
    So, their ONLY job is to investigate the legally elected POTUS?

    Maybe if they cared more about our country, and less about blocking every move the POTUS tries to make we could get some things done to help our citizens.
    Don is anything but stupid, or whatever.
    I personally find the guy a loathsome lout. but that is a personal evaluation of his lack of character.

    It is at best difficult for me to give him credit for anything he has accomplish as he spares no opportunity to boost.

    Given the corrupt animal Hillary and the Lout never voted for either.

    Considering the failure of the Obama administration hate to say it but Trump is a relief.

    On the first day the Lout was elected many Dems called for impeachment.

    Sore losers without a policy suggestion, except to frustrate the President.

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    Re: Will President Trump run for a second term?

    In my view Trump is a dangerous man.

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    Re: Will President Trump run for a second term?

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    Most of the people in the wings are only good-ole-boy in waiting that have come up through the same political system. I think it's better to define the overall underlying issue that sustains the network you speak of that profits off the taxpayer.

    What do you think that might be? I think the problem is capitalism.
    To my knowledge Socialism doesn't seem to work, so capitalism may not be perfect but it seems to lead to overall better lives for most than socialism has shown.

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    Re: Will President Trump run for a second term?

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    To my knowledge Socialism doesn't seem to work, so capitalism may not be perfect but it seems to lead to overall better lives for most than socialism has shown.
    Who said anything about "Socialism" or "overall better lives for most"? I thought we were discussing corruption in American Politics and what we saw as the root cause. I gave you my best guess. What's yours? Clearly, electing non-incumbents hasn't been working for the reasons I already stated.
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    Re: Will President Trump run for a second term?

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    To my knowledge Socialism doesn't seem to work, so capitalism may not be perfect but it seems to lead to overall better lives for most than socialism has shown.
    You should try visiting just about any european country most of which are social democracies the welfare states in uk france and germany are all the result of socialist policies. Socialism actuallyb takes it's lead from the writings of adam smith who far from being a free marketeer advocated the payment of deecent wages, universal and free education with access to higher education and government action to prevent the rise of cartels and monopolies and that some things were too important to be left to market forces like unfrastructure for instance - it being essential to eccourage business growth.

    Imagine living in a country where if you are ill and you go to a doctor the fiurst question is where does it hurt not ghow much money do you have.

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    Re: Will President Trump run for a second term?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YZGI View Post
    To my knowledge Socialism doesn't seem to work, so capitalism may not be perfect but it seems to lead to overall better lives for most than socialism has shown.
    I realize Americans have been indoctrinated since birth to loathe the word Socialism, but America is even so a Socialist nation. The word is anathema but the notion is a necessity. Allow me to persuade you as follows.

    Let's invent a new country just in the thread, Ourland. We happy few are the designers of Ourland. At some stage we can give it a Constitution and design its governance but there are questions to answer first before we we can go that far.

    Let's keep it simple and say that the only people allowed on Ourland's soil are citizens of Ourland. All citizens are human.

    Do we choose to allow citizens with no resources to die for lack of food or water or shelter? Would we like to let some categories of citizen die in such circumstance but provide relief for other categories?

    The thing is, if we have any category of citizen to whom we will provide relief as a duty of the nation, then we're introducing socialism. We've had members on ForumGarden who have said no, no relief regardless of category, they can live or die on the handouts of charities but the government of Ourland should have no mandate to intervene. They say this because Socialism is, in their opinion, Bad. Charities on the other hand, they add, can show benevolence to any category of citizen they consider deserving.

    You'll remember the old joke?
    “Well,” says the gentleman, “just for the sake of our argument, suppose I offered you $1000 - would you sleep with me?” The lady, smiling coquettishly: “Who knows - I might very well!” The gentleman: “Now suppose I offer you $10 for the night?” The lady: “What do you think I am!” The gentleman: “We’ve already established what you are. Now we’re just haggling over the price.”
    So what kind of country do you want? You can go on to discuss possible categories of deserving or abandoned, and whether education or other functions should be included alongside food, water and shelter, but you have to start with that yes/no choice of ever intervening for social reasons in the first place. If you allow any category then I suggest we've already established that Socialism has a necessary place in Ourland.
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