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    Re: Merry Christmas or happy holidays?

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    I take exception to people demanding that I be happy. On those infrequent occasions when I approximate happiness it's because I've chosen to, not because I've been instructed to. I disapprove of happiness, it's too often based on uninformed illusion.

    As for merry, the OED sums it up in its first entry, " Of an occupation, event, state, or condition: causing pleasure or happiness; pleasing, delightful. Obs." - obsolete. Just so. What business has anyone to be merry in today's world.
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    Re: Merry Christmas or happy holidays?

    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    I take exception to people demanding that I be happy. On those infrequent occasions when I approximate happiness it's because I've chosen to, not because I've been instructed to. I disapprove of happiness, it's too often based on uninformed illusion.

    As for merry, the OED sums it up in its first entry, " Of an occupation, event, state, or condition: causing pleasure or happiness; pleasing, delightful. Obs." - obsolete. Just so. What business has anyone to be merry in today's world.
    Well, I can become quite merry after a few pints of Ale.
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    Re: Merry Christmas or happy holidays?

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    I always use Happy Holidays, it's automatic with me.

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    Whatever someone wishes me I just thank them and tell them it's mutual.
    Same here.
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    Re: Merry Christmas or happy holidays?

    I usually just go with Merry Christmas or wish them whatever they wished me. If it's a little kid, staring at my beard, I often say Ho Ho Ho.

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    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year - both traditional and well meaning. Spot you can be such a misery guts sometimes - Oh well it takes all sorts dunnit. "Happy Holidays" is, I believe, American instigated, although I expect I shall be corrected if I'm wrong.
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    Re: Merry Christmas or happy holidays?

    Quote Originally Posted by G#Gill View Post
    "Happy Holidays" is, I believe, American instigated, although I expect I shall be corrected if I'm wrong.
    Christmas was wished as "a happy holiday" at least as far back as 1879 in London where the following introductory paragraph was printed:
    Dear Mr. Editor,

    You so very kindly wished all us children a happy holiday, perhaps you would like to hear how and where some of us spent our holidays. I shall feel great pleasure in telling you how I spent mine.

    Golden childhood, or the child's own annual of pictures, poetry and music. London, Ward, Lock & Tyler, 1879

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    Selective pressures dictate these sorts of things. Well, selective pressures dictates everything actually.

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    Re: Merry Christmas or happy holidays?

    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    Christmas was wished as "a happy holiday" at least as far back as 1879 in London where the following introductory paragraph was printed:
    Dear Mr. Editor,

    You so very kindly wished all us children a happy holiday, perhaps you would like to hear how and where some of us spent our holidays. I shall feel great pleasure in telling you how I spent mine.

    Golden childhood, or the child's own annual of pictures, poetry and music. London, Ward, Lock & Tyler, 1879

    Thanks for the correction Mr. spot !
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    Re: Merry Christmas or happy holidays?

    I have some relatives who get quite riled up over the whole Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays thing. They think that unless you specify Christmas, you are somehow ignoring the "True Meaning" of the holiday - Whatever that really means. This is, near as I can tell, some sort of Xtian backlash from the '80.
    With them, I have taken to saying "Happy Holidays"
    I am quite prepared to offer a Happy Hannukah to those that I know to be Jewish, when that holiday comes around. I have actually never met anyone who celebrates Kwanzaa, but would be perfectly willing to wish them a happy one, should I meet them.

    I am also considering simply saying, "Happy New Year" and leaving the whole religious thing alone.
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    Re: Merry Christmas or happy holidays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    I have some relatives who get quite riled up over the whole Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays thing. They think that unless you specify Christmas, you are somehow ignoring the "True Meaning" of the holiday - Whatever that really means. This is, near as I can tell, some sort of Xtian backlash from the '80.
    With them, I have taken to saying "Happy Holidays"
    I am quite prepared to offer a Happy Hannukah to those that I know to be Jewish, when that holiday comes around. I have actually never met anyone who celebrates Kwanzaa, but would be perfectly willing to wish them a happy one, should I meet them.

    I am also considering simply saying, "Happy New Year" and leaving the whole religious thing alone.
    Ah, but would that cover our Chinese friends :-)

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