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    Excuse me. This president was elected by the electoral college, NOT the people.
    It was the voters who told them how to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnneBoleyn View Post
    Excuse me. This president was elected by the electoral college, NOT the people.
    you know how the electoral college works right? it makes 100% sense! like why should some hick town have the same beliefs as a huge city full of "progressives"? everyone deserves a voice, omgosh im like in government class all over again
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    you know how the electoral college works right? it makes 100% sense! like why should some hick town have the same beliefs as a huge city full of "progressives"? everyone deserves a voice, omgosh im like in government class all over again
    I must admit I don't get it.

    Twenty million people vote but that counts for nothing, the state bosses decide how to vote (first passed the post, split vote or even against the results of the popular vote) and half a dozen people make the votes that actually count?

    Why not go with the original vote accumulated nationwide? You're voting for a President of the federal USoA so why do the states get involved?

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    I must admit I don't get it.

    Twenty million people vote but that counts for nothing, the state bosses decide how to vote (first passed the post, split vote or even against the results of the popular vote) and half a dozen people make the votes that actually count?

    Why not go with the original vote accumulated nationwide? You're voting for a President of the federal USoA so why do the states get involved?
    It gives rural towns more of a voice. An even say. Like say san Francisco compared to some small town of 1000k people. Just because millions from san Francisco think alike doesn't mean that the people from small towns do If it were based solely on majority those small towns don't even stand a chance. And an electoral voter is their voice.
    Smoke signals ftw!

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    It gives rural towns more of a voice. An even say. Like say san Francisco compared to some small town of 1000k people. Just because millions from san Francisco think alike doesn't mean that the people from small towns do If it were based solely on majority those small towns don't even stand a chance. And an electoral voter is their voice.
    You'll have to explain that one to me.

    One person, one vote, one voice - add all the votes together and see who gets the most. That way the individual in SF gets no more and no less that the individual in Hicksville.

    I guess I don't know enough of the background to understand the College system.

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    You'll have to explain that one to me.

    One person, one vote, one voice - add all the votes together and see who gets the most. That way the individual in SF gets no more and no less that the individual in Hicksville.

    I guess I don't know enough of the background to understand the College system.
    What I'm saying is san Francisco is obviously a smaller area crowded by a much larger Percent of people and mostly they share the same ideology's not all but mostly... But over here its a small town about the same size we obviously have different needs then san Francisco but without electoral voting 1000s of small town ideas don't matter. if every single vote was counted then your forcing all these small towns and people with different opinions of people to not have a voice simply by large town dominance. Yes Hillary won by millions but look where she won.... And look where trump won. It makes sense to me I guess 😂
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    That'll be the principle of giving every community a significant voice instead of allowing the cities to drown out everyone else. You allow one person one vote, and then you boost the baseline by giving rural communities their own electors. It works that way when a State splits its electors instead of making all of them vote the way the majority of the State went. Allowing each State to invent its own rule might be a bit unfair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
    You'll have to explain that one to me.

    One person, one vote, one voice - add all the votes together and see who gets the most. That way the individual in SF gets no more and no less that the individual in

    Hicksville.

    I guess I don't know enough of the background to understand the College system.
    States with fewer population feared being bullied by more populous states.

    In short to get the original thirteen states to agree all wanted equal representation in the new federal government. The EC was one of the ways.

    Rather than give each state an equal number of votes, they wanted to give the people a voice, hence the House of Representatives.
    You have to read the Constitution to see how the powers are divided, such as only the House can spend money and the Senate to approve treaties and certain government appointments.

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    I been to Townhall type meeting where both my local state level Senator and Representative agree that most of their work isn't about Republican and Democrat, but Rural and Urban interests. Not a level playing field for rural folk.

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    I can say that as someone who came here from Los Angeles, CA, definitely urban, but born in rural and family in rural.

    I grew up well aware of the insane concept of one man one vote.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._Sims

    A state Constitution, pattered like the Federal is Unconstitutional.
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