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    OH I see. I thought it was the people who owned the building doing this...so just some rich plebs. fair enough. I didn't realise you could end up in court for that.

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    OH I see. I thought it was the people who owned the building doing this...so just some rich plebs. fair enough. I didn't realise you could end up in court for that.
    I'm not sure the attendees are going to be found guilty but they're never going to live down the disgust. I'll post all their names later just so Google gets another bite at them.
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    Here you are, this chap is another of the same.

    “This is a man who funded Brexit lies, lives a life of excess and chooses to wish an accident on Greta Thunberg. It’s an absolute disgrace, his tweet should be reported as a hate crime.” She said Banks should have “opened his wallet and offered to pay for the journey for Greta. The sewer he chooses to swim in is not one which we should have to expose our children to.”

    Prof Tanja Bueltmann, founder of campaign group EU Citizens’ Champion, said Banks had “invoked the drowning of a child” for his own amusement.

    “Verbal attacks on Greta Thunberg have been coming from many different people for quite some time. Their common characteristic? Most of them are white middle-aged men from the right of the political spectrum.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ting-accidents
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    What an idiot. He thinks he's so clever with such words, but he has just caused himself to be ridiculed by every right-thinking human being who has learnt about this ignorant man's efforts to belittle a young girl in her efforts to draw attention to this earth's impending destruction! She wasn't even born when Greenpeace warned the world of the terrible plight that is about to strike us all !

    Perhaps, if 40 years ago, people had taken notice of what Greenpeace were warning us about and started to reduce the need for fossil fuels and develop wave power, solar power, wind power, and rejected the potential of devastation by nuclear power, we would not be in the perilous position that we find ourselves in now !

    Why do some overweight, self opinionated fools try to sarcastically disparage the honest efforts of children who seem to have more common sense and more nouse than many so-called world leaders. Is it because they really don't care, and is it because it will not actually affect the older generation because they will be dead anyway when the world degenerates into a lifeless mass. Whereas children will have to try to survive in such conditions, not those overweight, self-opinionated brainless idiots.

    Banks has done himself no good with his big ignorant mouth. Perhaps now is the time for the idiot to crawl back into the sewage hole that he crawled out of.
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    The case collapsed. One wonders why the CPS isn't replaced by an unpaid volunteer panel from the local back-to-work scheme coordinator, which might do a far better job and add lustre to the volunteers' CVs.

    Mr Bussetti has been discharged a free man.

    Bussetti, from South Norwood, south-east London, had used terms including “Paki” and the N-word in WhatsApp chats and forwarded racist content, the court heard, but said he was not a racist.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...nd-group-video
    He's a lying scoundrel then, if that's what he claims, but he wasn't on trial for being a racist.

    The country is in his debt for peeling back the veneer surrounding South Norwood's unpalatable rogues. I hope he continues to post material of a similar nature.
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    The inquiry, which examined what happened on the night of 14 June 2017, concluded that "many more lives" could have been saved if the advice to residents to "stay put" had been abandoned earlier than 02:35 BST.

    It said London Fire Brigade's preparations for such a fire were "gravely inadequate".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50230188
    I have yet to read the report on the Grenfell Fire but the idea that the London Fire Brigade's commissioner Dany Cotton "said the inquiry had no expert evidence to support its conclusion about evacuating the tower" is scandalous. Those who did leave despite being told by fire officers to stay did not die, and those in contrast who stayed were among the dead. If the commissioner can't bring herself to stand down after this report then she should never have been appointed.

    I think the reverse case ought to be asked. Why was the official advice to stay in the first place? If the immediate advice had been to evacuate, nobody at all would have died. I do not understand why the advice was the way it was, or who benefited from the advice. Why was the standing rule to remain? Was there ever a fire where the casualties were those who evacuated, while those who stayed put were the survivors? My impression is that the policy of instructing people to stay in their flats was simply to keep civilians from being in the way of the firefighters, in which case it was not necessarily a lifesaving approach. The LFB should be invited to justify the policy.
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    The Leader of the House has been criticized for saying the same thing. I have no idea why.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50302573

    "The advice is designed to prevent hundreds of people descending stairs while firefighters are coming up during a contained fire", apparently. That's exactly why it was such disgraceful advice, in my opinion. I suggest that all those lives were lost in order to make the work of the brigade less problematic, and that the advice should be changed in future.

    Nobody from the brigade seems able to say that anyone immediately trying to leave the building on hearing about the fire came to harm as a consequence, or caused anyone else to die as a consequence. If they can't say that, they ought to accept their policy of convenience clearly kills people.
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    The Leader of the House has been criticized for saying the same thing. I have no idea why.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50302573

    "The advice is designed to prevent hundreds of people descending stairs while firefighters are coming up during a contained fire", apparently. That's exactly why it was such disgraceful advice, in my opinion. I suggest that all those lives were lost in order to make the work of the brigade less problematic, and that the advice should be changed in future.

    Nobody from the brigade seems able to say that anyone immediately trying to leave the building on hearing about the fire came to harm as a consequence, or caused anyone else to die as a consequence. If they can't say that, they ought to accept their policy of convenience clearly kills people.
    Apart from getting in the way of firefighters on the stairways each flat is a concrete box that is fire resistant staying put would normally have been the safer option. What was the problem is the cladding that no one at the scene realised was going toact as a chimney drawing the fire up and in to the building. This is diverting attention from the real issue of inadequate checking by the building inspectors and the lossening of building controls by tory governments. when the cladding was put in place or the fact that many building have not yet had the cladding replaced. It 's atory council that post fire did little to help the residents. Jacob rees mogg is an idiot.

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/0...grenfell-fire/

    "Social housing magazine Inside Housing has carried out an extensive investigation into why the government failed to learn the lessons of the Lakanal fire, which made the spread of the flames at Grenfell more likely. It points out that in 2010, David Cameron announced a ‘one in, one out’ policy for regulations, which was designed to lower the cost of building homes. Even when campaigners pointed out that buildings were now being clad in highly combustible materials, the response from ministers was allegedly that a fire ‘hasn’t happened yet’." Note the date.

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    So one needs to ask the question if one finds there's a fire while being in a high-rise. Does one feel lucky, in which case stay in the safe room.

    No thank you, not even if I'm told the regulations have been conformed to. I'll leave immediately.
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    This is the Bolton student accommodation fire aftermath. Nobody died, because everyone evacuated immediately.

    The 2017 review said safe as houses, not the same cladding as Grenfell, nobody need worry. On the other hand the outside was uncontrollably ablaze in the news clips.

    The government has been accused of downplaying the fire risk posed by the type of cladding that burned ferociously on a Bolton student housing block on Friday – and of refusing help to worried residents of other affected buildings.

    Officials were dismissing pleas for the removal of high-pressure laminate panels similar to those used at the Cube in Bolton as recently as a fortnight ago, the Guardian has learned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...adding-lottery
    The photo looks as though a tin shack in Kampala had burned, not student accommodation in England. What did they build that place from? Scrap metal and a shiny coat of top-paint over chipboard?


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