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    Can they overtake the one in front? or do they have to chug round in formation like the carriages of a railway train. Are they allowed runners.
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    Re: A little bit of Cricketing history...

    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    Can they overtake the one in front? or do they have to chug round in formation like the carriages of a railway train. Are they allowed runners.
    I've no idea about runners for injured batters. But they can't overtake or cross. I think it's called jaywalking.
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    I can guess at some of it: the 7th is the Innings? baseball seems to have lots, cricket have 4 at most...

    2 on - that must be their bases, Wertz was the bloke facing the pitcher - baseball run outs seem a much bigger part of the game than in cricket. Not sure about nobody out. Could be field position, could be the batting side has lost no-one yet...

    3 hits - a hit seems to be a much rarer than a run in cricket. So his 3 is a big deal. All smoked I'm guessing means he really belted them and and they were all very different types of delivery from the pitcher, showing Mays' versatility as a batter. To be fair, my OP is going to be pretty impenetrable to the non cricketer. ( watched a bit of baseball on ESPN last night having read Lars' comment, just to see. Perhaps that helped.)

    The bit in baseball I'm unclear on is the 3 places the pitchers run to - with the place the batter stands it's a diamond shape. If the batter hits it far enough he (or she?) can run all the way round he scores a run. If he only gets to first or second base it doesn't count to the score but my impression is that if he makes it all the way round when the next guy is hits the ball and runs, he gets a chance to bat again - so baseball could have a LOT of innings if people get round without scoring(?). Equally, when there's 2 or 3 batters out there part way round the diamond (I'm guessing that's what "loaded bases" means?) the fielders could dismiss 3 guys in one go if say the fielder guarding the last base is thrown the ball the ball before the batter running to it got there. (Like cricket's Run Out, but you get all the blokes queued up trying to get round, not just one)

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    So, Baseball - The batter stands at home plate. The pitcher is out in the middle on the mound. Pitcher attempts to throw over home plate, but in a fashion that makes it difficult for the batter to hit.
    When the batter connects, and hits the ball within the field of play, he then becomes the Runner, running madly for the First Base. If his ball stays within the field of play, laterally, and hits the ground before being retrieved by one of the pitcher's teammates, he must tag that first base, before the retrieving team can get the ball to the First Baseman, who must then tag First base. If the ball remains in play, but not in control, the Runner may attempt to continue to second, and if possible, even to Third. All kinds of things can happen while runner is between bases. Once the fielding team has control of the ball, a wise runner stops at a base and remains in contact with it. If the ball goes out of the field down range, he has scored a home run, and can safely run about tagging all the bases, sequentially, until he arrives at Home Plate, again. Any other runners who were on a base when he hit the home run can also advance ahead of him until all runners have tagged Home.
    That is pretty much the basics of Baseball. If the Pitcher can prevent a batter from hitting three pitches that are officially over the home plate, that batter is out, and another one tries to hit the ball. if the pitcher can keep three batter from hitting his pitches, that is three outs, and it's like Cricket. Everybody out comes in, and everybody in goes out.
    Now, if his pitch fails to arrive over the plate (in the judgement of the umpire) and the batter did not chose to swing, that is called a ball. four of those, and the batter gets to walk to First Base and tag it, and remain safely there while another batter steps up.
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    Re: A little bit of Cricketing history...

    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    Can they overtake the one in front? or do they have to chug round in formation like the carriages of a railway train. Are they allowed runners.
    Nope. they must stay in order.
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    Re: A little bit of Cricketing history...

    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    So, Baseball - The batter stands at home plate. The pitcher is out in the middle on the mound. Pitcher attempts to throw over home plate, but in a fashion that makes it difficult for the batter to hit.
    When the batter connects, and hits the ball within the field of play, he then becomes the Runner, running madly for the First Base. If his ball stays within the field of play, laterally, and hits the ground before being retrieved by one of the pitcher's teammates, he must tag that first base, before the retrieving team can get the ball to the First Baseman, who must then tag First base. If the ball remains in play, but not in control, the Runner may attempt to continue to second, and if possible, even to Third. All kinds of things can happen while runner is between bases. Once the fielding team has control of the ball, a wise runner stops at a base and remains in contact with it. If the ball goes out of the field down range, he has scored a home run, and can safely run about tagging all the bases, sequentially, until he arrives at Home Plate, again. Any other runners who were on a base when he hit the home run can also advance ahead of him until all runners have tagged Home.
    That is pretty much the basics of Baseball. If the Pitcher can prevent a batter from hitting three pitches that are officially over the home plate, that batter is out, and another one tries to hit the ball. if the pitcher can keep three batter from hitting his pitches, that is three outs, and it's like Cricket. Everybody out comes in, and everybody in goes out.
    Now, if his pitch fails to arrive over the plate (in the judgement of the umpire) and the batter did not chose to swing, that is called a ball. four of those, and the batter gets to walk to First Base and tag it, and remain safely there while another batter steps up.
    I think we call it rounders in this country :-)

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    I feel extremely blessed that i understand and have participated in both ball games. Both diatribes make perfect sence ti me. They are cpmpletely different games though with absolutely no resemblance apart from a ball and bat. Its not like knowing the rules of field hockey and understanding soccer (and vise versa)

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    Re: A little bit of Cricketing history...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
    I think we call it rounders in this country :-)
    I loved rounders in primary school! Try finding a rounders bat in a sports shop these days. Almost impossible

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    Baseball, more fun and exciting than Cricket. NFL football, more violent and fun than soccer. Is there any sport we haven't improved from your version?

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    Well, Rugby Union is our equivalent of NFL. (Soccer is just football: same game, alternative name) You should watch it. I know quite a few people who are keen on both. The compare and contrasts are interesting and as a Rugby supporter it's easy enough to follow NFL even if I don't appreciate the finer points. Perhaps the biggest difference between Rugby Union and NFL is that in Rugby Union conning the ref - cheating - is allowed and even regarded as a skill (though there are limits).

    Here's a bit of Rugby class, if you can click the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlDyUlTEwvI The commentators are one neutral Aussie and the other is a supporter of the team playing in black (New Zealand).

    Haven't really seen baseball but grew up with cricket since my parents were both mad keen, coaches and ex-players...I've little natural talent for it myself but know a heck of a lot by absorption (and am also a qualified coach - the bloke who taught me to coach is now one of the England coaches!). I'd be interested to go to live games of both NFL and Baseball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    So, Baseball - The batter stands at home plate. The pitcher is out in the middle on the mound. Pitcher attempts to throw over home plate, but in a fashion that makes it difficult for the batter to hit.
    When the batter connects, and hits the ball within the field of play, he then becomes the Runner, running madly for the First Base. If his ball stays within the field of play, laterally, and hits the ground before being retrieved by one of the pitcher's teammates, he must tag that first base, before the retrieving team can get the ball to the First Baseman, who must then tag First base. If the ball remains in play, but not in control, the Runner may attempt to continue to second, and if possible, even to Third. All kinds of things can happen while runner is between bases. Once the fielding team has control of the ball, a wise runner stops at a base and remains in contact with it. If the ball goes out of the field down range, he has scored a home run, and can safely run about tagging all the bases, sequentially, until he arrives at Home Plate, again. Any other runners who were on a base when he hit the home run can also advance ahead of him until all runners have tagged Home.
    That is pretty much the basics of Baseball. If the Pitcher can prevent a batter from hitting three pitches that are officially over the home plate, that batter is out, and another one tries to hit the ball. if the pitcher can keep three batter from hitting his pitches, that is three outs, and it's like Cricket. Everybody out comes in, and everybody in goes out.
    Now, if his pitch fails to arrive over the plate (in the judgement of the umpire) and the batter did not chose to swing, that is called a ball. four of those, and the batter gets to walk to First Base and tag it, and remain safely there while another batter steps up.
    Ok, that's plain enough. How do you score though? Does each batter who gets all the way round score a run, or do you have to get round all three bases in one go to score? You don't get anything more for hitting out of the playing area?
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