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    Re: Positive outcome from brexit

    We'll find out tomorrow. I think the Supreme Court will consider the position taken by all four courts which have adjudicated so far - I think I have that count right. I can't see it weighting the English case more heavily than that of the Scottish courts and it will bear the different legal systems in mind as it comes to its position.
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    I'm beginning to believe that this whole mess has come from the politicians and government being extremely detached from the rest of the populace. It's shameful really . Makes you wonder who's pulling the strings.

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    It was overruled in the London High Court just a few hours later, ruling that it was Legal.

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    It was overruled in the London High Court just a few hours later, ruling that it was Legal.
    Until the Supreme Court makes its announcement tomorrow the whole question is undecided. That's what appeals are for.
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    Xavier Bettel is the hero of the year.

    Start at 1:33:00, just after Boris walks out on him without giving the press conference, to the end. This is unmissable.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ILRqX4GxY

    Here is a transcript up to the press questions.
    "I wanted to thank Mr Johnson, who was here today, for the exchange that we had. For me it was important to listen to Prime Minister Johnson. To listen to concrete proposals to avoid a no-deal Brexit. For Luxembourg, our position in regards to a deal has always been very clear: the first priority in any withdrawal agreement or declaration on the future relationship is the preservation of the single market. Second, we need a deal that protects the Good Friday Agreement and avoids a hard border on the Irish border at all costs.

    The only solution that is currently on the table that meets all these criteria is the withdrawal agreement we agreed on in November last year, with the negotiator Michel Barnier, and whose got support by all the 27 members and also by the European Parliament.

    I know that the UK government is unhappy with the withdrawal agreement as it stands. That's why I thought that it was important to speak with Prime Minister Johnson to get proposals. We need more than just words. We need a legally operable text to work on as soon as possible, if we want to meet the October deadline. I have never minced my words when asked about another extension, so let me be very clear once again: An extension is only an option if it serves a purpose. We will not grant another extension just for the sake of granting another extension.

    Historically, the UK has always been an important ally and a strategic partner of my country - but most importantly, a close friends. The ties that link our people is are strong, and that will not change with Brexit. But our people need to know what is going to happen to them in six weeks' time: they need clarity, they need certainty, and they need stability. You can't hold a future hostage for party political gains.

    So now it's on Mr Johnson. He holds the future of all UK citizens, and every EU citizen living in the UK, in his hands. It's his responsibility. Your people, our people, count on you. But the clock is ticking. Use your time wisely."
    Once the press questions start it gets brutal.
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    Re: Positive outcome from brexit

    The sun version (spin) of the same events is interesting

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pEL2C0DEiw

    Boris Johnson ’empty chaired’ by EU boss who refused to stop anti-Brexit protesters targeting PM

    In a non police state you have the right to protest do you not? The protetstors were in the main british.

    This is being spin as a PM of a two bit nation humiliating the british prime minister. They very seldom mention the backstop was theresa may's idea and boris is just noit making any new suggestions.

    The unionists in scotland are beginning to panic

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/17...-majority-bid/

    Maybe they should do that for a second eu referendum.

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    Re: Positive outcome from brexit

    Bit more on the court case a. This is an SNP MP one of those who brought the court action.


    https://twitter.com/lumi_1984/status...60771850768387

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    Re: Positive outcome from brexit

    There we are, we now have the Supreme Court verdict, unanimous by all eleven judges. Prorogation in the given circumstances was unlawful, of no effect, void, cancelled.

    Parliament will sit tomorrow at 11.30am.

    Prime Minister's Questions has been cancelled. We can expect to see MPs take control of the order paper again.

    Dominic Cummings, the current Downing Street policy designer and a cross between Baldrick and Scaramanga, would (I'm guessing) try to prorogue a second time except the court would stamp it back down within hours.

    He may instead offer a general election to the House a second time, as an alternative delay, except the house would reject it again.

    I can't see Boris honorably falling on his sword.

    I'd quite like to see a replacement unified government under Kenneth Clarke getting an extension and then calling an immediate transferable vote referendum with three options: cancel Brexit, agree Theresa May's negotiated terms or leave with no deal. That would involve a No Confidence motion.
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    Re: Positive outcome from brexit

    Unbelieveable

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/17...itics-special/

    "“Ian is the leader of the third biggest group at Westminster. And today of all days, when SNP MPs have been so central to the UK-wide story, it just seems ridiculous to omit us.

    “When you consider the other guests on the BBC One Special – who are somehow seen as more appropriate than the Westminster leader of the SNP – it reflects very badly on their priorities and reveals an editorial narrowmindedness of the BBC bosses in London.”

    Interviewed by Neil on the show, LibDem MP Umunna said his party were “the biggest and strongest Remain party”.

    This went unchallenged, despite the LibDems having just 18 MPs to the SNP’s 35, and a lower membership total. "

    I happened to be in a position to watch this live. The contrast between the bbc, cnn snd sky news coverage was really noticeable. Even as they were showing the snp contingent johanna cherry and ian blackfird outside the courtroom the bbc didn'tshow them at all. It's scots law that has been the main driver in this the bias of the bbc is getting against the snp more and more noticeable and to to ignore the third largest partyt and second largest anti brexit party completely is inexcusable.

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    I'm utterly flabbergasted and utterly ashamed to be British. Parliament is embarrassing. I've been disgusted watching Gove and Boris today, what utter arrogant idiots.

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