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    Re: Shelf life of racism.

    Quote Originally Posted by FourPart View Post
    As most bad things, Racism generally has its roots in Religion.
    That is quite a statement.

    Are you talking of all religion across the globe? Anyone in particular that you are accusing?

    I don't see it within the Judeo-Christian tradition. Maybe you could enlighten me?

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    Throughout the world you will find that the most integrated societies are also the least Religious.
    That may be true, so what?

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    Re: Shelf life of racism.

    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post
    That is quite a statement.

    Are you talking of all religion across the globe?
    He said "Religion" (with a capital R), didn't he?
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    Anyone in particular that you are accusing?
    Obviously not (see above).

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    I don't see it within the Judeo-Christian tradition. Maybe you could enlighten me?
    I don't think you even know what you're talking about. Are you referencing both Jews and Christians, or are you only meaning Jews?

    Either way, different sects of Christians have a history of all sorts of racism, though that doesn't mean all Christians are racist.

    As for Jews, you can't say the official position of Israel toward Palestinians, doesn't appear to be racist. Can you? Again, that doesn't mean all Jews are racist.

    The "Religions" are often used as justification for such racism.



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    That may be true, so what?
    He made a statement. What's your point? Your posts are so nonsensical most of the time.
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    Re: Shelf life of racism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahso! View Post
    He said "Religion" (with a capital R), didn't he? Obviously not (see above).
    Actually, he did indicate across the globe. I just didn't catch it.

    "As most bad things, Racism generally has its roots in Religion. Throughout the world you will find that the most integrated societies are also the least Religious."
    World.

    Thank you for the interruption.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahso! View Post
    I don't think you even know what you're talking about. Are you referencing both Jews and Christians, or are you only meaning Jews?
    I was thinking along these lines,

    Judeo-Christian is a term that groups Judaism and Christianity, either in reference to Christianity's derivation from Judaism, both religions' common use of the Torah, or due to perceived parallels or commonalities shared values between those two religions, which has contained as part of Western culture.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahso! View Post
    Either way, different sects of Christians have a history of all sorts of racism, though that doesn't mean all Christians are racist.
    OK, Christianity is not a racist religion.

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    As for Jews, you can't say the official position of Israel toward Palestinians, doesn't appear to be racist. Can you?
    That not t me. In fact, I would argue the Arabs not only appear racist but are.

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    Again, that doesn't mean all Jews are racist.
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    The "Religions" are often used as justification for such racism.
    How many tens of millions have been murdered in the name of Socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahso! View Post
    He made a statement. What's your point? Your posts are so nonsensical most of the time.
    Just wondering what makes Religion inherently racist, and the cause of most bad things.

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    Re: Shelf life of racism.

    td: "Just wondering what makes Religion inherently racist, and the cause of most bad things."

    Because...........it's an easy dodge. People naively (IMO) believe that if there were no Religious issues we wouldn't find other reasons to hate each others guts. We have a primitive part of our brain, which, despite all our fancy civilization, is still alive & well.

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    Re: Shelf life of racism.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnneBoleyn View Post
    td: "Just wondering what makes Religion inherently racist, and the cause of most bad things."

    Because...........it's an easy dodge. People naively (IMO) believe that if there were no Religious issues we wouldn't find other reasons to hate each others guts. We have a primitive part of our brain, which, despite all our fancy civilization, is still alive & well.
    Religion is like a mirror, it's man made for any to look into but we created it. And we use it to look at ourselves and some to even define themselves. The invention never precedes the inventors.

    We invented racism as well.

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    Re: Shelf life of racism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickiel View Post
    Religion is like a mirror, it's man made for any to look into but we created it. And we use it to look at ourselves and some to even define themselves. The invention never precedes the inventors.

    We invented racism as well.

    How long will racism last? It has grown too strong and ingrained in humans to be erased by anything weaker than itself. The question then arises: "Can man create something that can become stronger than himself?"

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    Re: Shelf life of racism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickiel View Post
    Religion is like a mirror, it's man made for any to look into but we created it. And we use it to look at ourselves and some to even define themselves. The invention never precedes the inventors.
    NAW, nothing like that.

    I imagine primitive peoples working hard just to survive with little spare time. Wondered what is this all about and for some reason it being innate they turned to some kind of spirituality. They then figured out agriculture, animal husbandry and voila!

    Keeping this simple they had time to think about things beyond where to get the next eats.

    I believe that the more enlightened rather than turn to hedonism created a tradition made possible by writing.

    Now understand I am talking about the people, regular folk, not the institutions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickiel View Post
    We invented racism as well.
    Somebody had to do it.

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    Re: Shelf life of racism.

    Unfortunately racism is now here to stay. It is because the human race is so intolerant with people who are from different cultures and countries.
    I'm a Saga-lout, growing old disgracefully

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    Re: Shelf life of racism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickiel View Post
    How long will racism last? It has grown too strong and ingrained in humans to be erased by anything weaker than itself. The question then arises: "Can man create something that can become stronger than himself?"
    The strongest force of all will erase it - time.

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    Re: Shelf life of racism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
    The strongest force of all will erase it - time.
    Don't you mean death? If we didn't die our crazy ideas wouldn't die with us. Life progresses by death, kind of like pruning the human race.

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