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    Re: Explain how male and female is not a creation.

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    Not obvious at all, a matter of opinion taken as an article of faith.

    To me it's an outside possibility for which I see no evidence whereas I can see a rational chain of cause and effect that explains evolutionary theory.
    Evolution is expected results from the beginning of a design. Its what was supposed to happen. In my view evolution is purposeful stages not happenstance mutation.

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    Re: Explain how male and female is not a creation.

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    If I may continue with my analogy , random theory is like believing the canvas created itself and started drawing on its own: stunning belief. In my view , male and female shows obvious design with intent. These genders did not evolve , they were established on purpose with purpose because of purpose. You cannot derive human gender and genome from random unpurposed aimless time. Male and female were intended matches in a mating ritual that does not embarass truth.
    Your analogy is a statement of your own belief, it does not reflect my belief or anything I see in the world around me.

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    Re: Explain how male and female is not a creation.

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    Evolution is expected results from the beginning of a design. Its what was supposed to happen. In my view evolution is purposeful stages not happenstance mutation.
    No, evolution is a mechanism whereby changes of parameters within a system, whether that be an ecosystem, a neural network or whatever, are selected or rejected according to the changes in efficiency they introduce into that system. Understand that and you will see that there is nothing happenstance about it.

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    Re: Explain how male and female is not a creation.

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    No, evolution is a mechanism whereby changes of parameters within a system, whether that be an ecosystem, a neural network or whatever, are selected or rejected according to the changes in efficiency they introduce into that system. Understand that and you will see that there is nothing happenstance about it.
    No evolution is not selection of the fittest, it's a detailed purposed change. Pupi to butterfly is a good example. My view is different than yours.

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    Re: Explain how male and female is not a creation.

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    No evolution is not selection of the fittest, it's a detailed purposed change. Pupi to butterfly is a good example. My view is different than yours.
    Pupae to butterfly is not an example of evolution at all and neither is it purposed change - to claim that it is purposed is to place an intelligence into the mechanism that does not exit within evolutionary theory and turns it into something else entirely (Intelligent Creation maybe but certainly not evolution).

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    No evolution is not selection of the fittest, it's a detailed purposed change. Pupi to butterfly is a good example. My view is different than yours.

    The male penis and the female vergina were well purposed design's. Its academic.

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    Re: Explain how male and female is not a creation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
    Pupae to butterfly is not an example of evolution at all and neither is it purposed change - to claim that it is purposed is to place an intelligence into the mechanism that does not exit within evolutionary theory and turns it into something else entirely (Intelligent Creation maybe but certainly not evolution).
    I disagree it's classic evolution.

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    Re: Explain how male and female is not a creation.

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    The male penis and the female vergina were well purposed design's. Its academic.
    In my culture we call small porcelain statues "due hickeys". You can buy matching pairs for display. Male and female are purposeful created matching pairs meant to go together, it's obvious intention.

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    Re: Explain how male and female is not a creation.

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    In my culture we call small porcelain statues "due hickeys". You can buy matching pairs for display. Male and female are purposeful created matching pairs meant to go together, it's obvious intention.
    What has this got to do with evolution?

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    Re: Explain how male and female is not a creation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
    What has this got to do with evolution?

    Oh nothing, I was just getting back on topic. But we can continue to discuss it if you like.

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