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    Explain to me why a non-believer expects a right to be married in my place of worship or even a right to enter???
    The place in question was an "Event Hall"
    They rent their space out to people for all sorts of gatherings.
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    The place in question was an "Event Hall"
    They rent their space out to people for all sorts of gatherings.
    The plot thickens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post
    The plot thickens.
    Yup. yet another example of someone hiring themselves out to do a job for people, who then claims that they can't do that job for people who are not of their ilk.
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    interesting . We're having this very conversation in this country (albeit not to do with marriage) But does anyone see how weird it is that political gusto is all over the place ?..at the same time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magentaflame View Post
    interesting . We're having this very conversation in this country (albeit not to do with marriage) But does anyone see how weird it is that political gusto is all over the place ?..at the same time?
    Yep. I've noticed that, too.
    I still think it is some sort of weird residual from the days of Leaded Gasoline (Petrol, I think it's called in your neck of the woods.)
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    Re: Sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions

    As an aside, curiosity got the better of me. I had to go and look since I had no idea what it meant.

    bubba vote n. (usually with the) that part of the United States electorate consisting of white, working-class males from the rural southern United States, especially those regarded as unintellectual or socially conservative.

    OED

    Digression over. Carry on.

    "Political gusto" was very good, by the way.
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    Here in Colorado, a health provider fired a doctor for wanting to assist a dying cancer patient in choosing his death.
    They claim the law which permits terminally ill patients to choose to die instead of waiting for death goes against the corporate Christian philosophy.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2019/09/0...in-dying-laws/
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    Re: Sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions

    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    Here in Colorado, a health provider fired a doctor for wanting to assist a dying cancer patient in choosing his death.
    They claim the law which permits terminally ill patients to choose to die instead of waiting for death goes against the corporate Christian philosophy.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2019/09/0...in-dying-laws/
    So it's OK for them to infringe on his religious freedom by imposing their beliefs while refusing to accept his right to his own. Wonder how long before they start refusing medical aid for those whose lifestyle they deem as unworthy.

    Suicide is a mortal sin to christians for the simple reason that the early church realised that if they didn't make it so an awful lot of christians would be suiciding to get away from the lives they were leading. Great way to keep the slaves and plebs in their place, god made it so so don't challenge theowrls order and suicide is not an option as you will not get to heaven.

    They keep blocking assisted dying in this country as well, not out of concern for the welfare of those who wish to terminate their lives but because they see it as another weakening of their grip on society.

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    Re: Sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions

    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    If it is nothing I claim, perhaps you could say what it is.

    It's exactly what I've claimed. It's an exclusion for Christians from supplying goods and services to anyone they think God considers abhorrent, inferior or damned. How the hell else do you read it.
    It is illegal to deny service to somebody because of race, gender, sexual orientation and so forth.

    Mississippi law or not.

    What I can do is not participate or contribute to a perverted ceremony.

    That is my right, and I am NOT a Christian.

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    Re: Sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions

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    I don't know whether the venue in this particular case was a church it seems simply to have been a a venue lent out for such events. Don't quite get ypur point as a non believer is hardly likely to want to be married in a church although I dare say one might to humour a future spouse. If the couple had been of different christians sects would you still think the refusal was OK? Living in sectarian scotland I knew several who ended up estranged from their familes because they chose to marry a "non believer" be it papist or proddy both sides are equally bad. How woul you like to get your head kicked in because you went out with someone from another religion or of a different race woiuld you agrue they have a right to exercise their freedom of religion?

    Are you saying you would refuse to allow a non believer to attend a wedding as a guest? What about funerals? I have attended religious funerals as imo how someone wishes to be laid to rest is up to them and you should respect their wishes and I would have been very surprised to be told I should not attend as a non believer.

    Don't know about the US but civil marriage is a relatively recent development in the UK and there are still many who refuse to see it as a "real" marriage. Born out oif wedlock, bastard legitimate/illegitimate the consequences of religious bigotry colour our language.

    It's only in the sixties that Miscegenation laws were ruled unlawful in the us, no doubt there arte many who would like to have them back. This is racial discrimination and bogotry justified in the name of religious freedom.
    Chrch or not, doesn't matter to me.

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