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    Trump Pulling Back In Syria

    Is Trump doing this for Turkey under the guise of reducing US involvement in "forever wars"? Turkey has spent serious money with us lately. Is this part two of a "beautiful deal"?

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    Leaving the Kurds to their final fate.
    ISIS is all but dispatched, supposedly, so the US no longer has need of them.
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    This is the third time the kurds have been shafted by the US. The turks want to exterminate them. Turkey has one of the most powerful militaries in the region and fundamentalist muslims have taken control over what was once a secular state.

    In fairness to trump I don't think he can grasp the seriousness of what he had just done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmc View Post
    This is the third time the kurds have been shafted by the US. The turks want to exterminate them. Turkey has one of the most powerful militaries in the region and fundamentalist muslims have taken control over what was once a secular state.

    In fairness to trump I don't think he can grasp the seriousness of what he had just done.
    He’s the leader of the most powerful state in the world, it’s his job to understand the issues before he acts.

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    Re: Trump Pulling Back In Syria

    If it persuades future foreign mercenaries from acting as America's cannon fodder whenever the White House of the day decides it wants to interfere in the internal affairs of yet another sovereign nation, then I'm all in favor of abandoning the previous gullible militia that signed up for the job. It's a dire warning to whoever is next tempted by cash and weaponry.

    The Kurds suffered 11,000 dead while acting under American direction in Syria, if I heard that right earlier this week. Without them, and with no ability to take casualties itself, America's belligerent foreign policy would have been hamstrung.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    If it persuades future foreign mercenaries from acting as America's cannon fodder whenever the White House of the day decides it wants to interfere in the internal affairs of yet another sovereign nation, then I'm all in favor of abandoning the previous gullible militia that signed up for abandonment. It's a dire warning to whoever is next tempted by cash and weaponry.

    The Kurds suffered 11,000 dead while acting under American direction in Syria, if I heard that right earlier this week. Without them, and with no ability to take casualties itself, America's belligerent foreign policy would have been hamstrung.
    They're not simply foreign mercenaries there are some 30 million of them with the misfortune to be in an area rich in resources and bounded bounded by turkey, iran, iraq (it was kurds that saddam hussein used chical weapons against following in the footsteps of the british) and syria. (follow the oil). Turkey is going to ethnically cleanse the area. The kurds were there long before the arabs and turks.

    Be interesting to see what the rest of the kurds in turkey decide to do -erdogan jailed their leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmc View Post
    They're not simply foreign mercenaries there are some 30 million of them with the misfortune to be in an area rich in resources and bounded bounded by turkey, iran, iraq (it was kurds that saddam hussein used chical weapons against following in the footsteps of the british) and syria. (follow the oil). Turkey is going to ethnically cleanse the area. The kurds were there long before the arabs and turks.

    Be interesting to see what the rest of the kurds in turkey decide to do -erdogan jailed their leaders.
    No, the Kurdish armed volunteer militia hired by America to fight their proxy war do not total 30 million. With their camp-followers they might amount to a quarter of a million. There are other Kurds in the world beside this mercenary force. The pre-war Syrian Kurd population was less than 2 million and I'd guess over half of those have fled Syria in the last decade.
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    Re: Trump Pulling Back In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by gmc View Post
    In fairness to trump I don't think he can grasp the seriousness of what he had just done.
    He understands, he just doesn't care. Like all sociopaths, no one exists outside of him. gmc, you (of all people)using the word fairness & trump in the same breath is a knife in my heart. Please don't do it again.

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    No, the Kurdish armed volunteer militia hired by America to fight their proxy war do not total 30 million. With their camp-followers they might amount to a quarter of a million. There are other Kurds in the world beside this mercenary force. The pre-war Syrian Kurd population was less than 2 million and I'd guess over half of those have fled Syria in the last decade.
    It's not as simple or black amd white as you picture it. Why are there so many around the world? The kurds have been fighting for their own country ever since the ottoman empire took it off them. Turkey was one of the geat superpowers now they are after old glories and are no longer a secular state. God is with them.

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    It's not as simple or black amd white as you picture it. Why are there so many around the world? The kurds have been fighting for their own country ever since the ottoman empire took it off them. Turkey was one of the geat superpowers now they are after old glories and are no longer a secular state. God is with them.
    I don't dispute that in the slightest. I'm discussing the American-financed American-armed Kurdish volunteer militia in Syria which has just been abandoned on the instruction of President Trump, not the historical justification for Kurdistan.
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