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    Re: Greta Thunberg Is Time's Person Of The Year for 2019

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    I wonder whether I could persuade you to quote anything she's said in public which qualifies as "silly", I'm interested to know what might fit this setting. Any quote, anywhere, any topic, so long as it's actually her words and you put them in quote marks. If you can choose something relevant to her public message then that would be a bonus but I don't insist.
    Greta Thunberg UN Climate Action Summit Speech Transcript 2019: “How Dare You?”

    Greta Thunberg: 00:00 "My message is that we’ll be watching you. This is all wrong. I shouldn’t be up here. I should be back in school on the other side of the ocean. Yet, you all come to us young people for hope. How dare you? You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words, yet I’m one of the lucky ones.
    Greta Thunberg: 00:39 People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction and all you can talk about is the money and fairytales of eternal economic growth. How dare you?
    Greta Thunberg: 01:06 For more than 30 years, the science has been crystal clear. How dare you continue to look away and come here saying that you are doing enough when the politics and solutions needed are still nowhere in sight?
    Greta Thunberg: 01:25 You say you hear us and that you understand the urgency, but no matter how sad and angry I am, I do not want to believe that because if you really understood the situation and still kept on failing to act, then you would be evil and that I refuse to believe.
    Greta Thunberg: 01:52 The popular idea of cutting our emissions in half in 10 years only gives us a 50% chance of staying below 1.5 degrees and the risk of setting off irreversible chain reactions beyond human control. 50% may be acceptable to you, but those numbers do not include tipping points.
    Greta Thunberg: 02:16 Most feedback loops, additional warming hidden by toxic air pollution or the aspects of equity and climate justice. They also rely on my generation sucking hundreds of billions of tons of your CO2 out of the air with technologies that barely exist. So, a 50% risk is simply not acceptable to us, we who have to live with the consequences.
    Greta Thunberg: 02:43 How dare you pretend that this can be sold with just business as usual and some technical solutions? With today’s emissions levels, that remaining CO2 budget will be entirely gone within less than eight and a half years. There will not be any solutions or plans presented in line with these figures here today because these numbers are too uncomfortable and you are still not mature enough to tell it like it is.
    Greta Thunberg: 03:19 You are failing us, but the young people are starting to understand your betrayal. The eyes of all future generations are upon you. And if you choose to fail us, I say, we will never forgive you. We will not let you get away with this. Right here, right now is where we draw the line. The world is waking up and change is coming, whether you like it or not. Thank you."
    “The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men,
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    Re: Greta Thunberg Is Time's Person Of The Year for 2019

    I can see no reason why anyone would regard that as "silly". It's certainly well constructed. To be able to do that in a foreign language is even more impressive.
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    Re: Greta Thunberg Is Time's Person Of The Year for 2019

    Did you honestly think you were going to get anything in the way of an explanation or description?
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    Re: Greta Thunberg Is Time's Person Of The Year for 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    I can see no reason why anyone would regard that as "silly". It's certainly well constructed. To be able to do that in a foreign language is even more impressive.
    Perhaps I choose the wrong adjective.

    I could have applied any of these to that quote of hers.

    childish
    crazy
    frivolous
    idiotic
    inappropriate
    irresponsible
    ludicrous
    nonsensical
    pointless
    preposterous
    ridiculous
    simple
    stupid
    empty
    irrational
    asinine
    balmy
    brainless
    dippy
    dizzy
    empty-headed
    fatuous
    featherbrained
    flighty
    foolhardy
    harebrained
    ignorant
    illogical
    immature
    imprudent
    inane
    inconsistent
    meaningless
    muddle-headed
    nitwitted
    puerile
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    Re: Greta Thunberg Is Time's Person Of The Year for 2019

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    Did you honestly think you were going to get anything in the way of an explanation or description?
    I gave him exactly what he asked for.

    persuade you to quote anything she's said in public which qualifies as "silly", I'm interested to know what might fit this setting. Any quote, anywhere, any topic, so long as it's actually her words and you put them in quote marks. If you can choose something relevant to her public message then that would be a bonus but I don't insist.
    That is in additon to the You Tube video
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    Re: Greta Thunberg Is Time's Person Of The Year for 2019

    Now explain why you view the quote as silly.
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    Re: Greta Thunberg Is Time's Person Of The Year for 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahso! View Post
    Now explain why you view the quote as silly.
    Uh, how about

    silly[ sil-ee ]SHOW IPA
    SEE SYNONYMS FOR silly ON THESAURUS.COM
    adjective, sil·li·er, sil·li·est.
    weak-minded or lacking good sense; stupid or foolish:
    a silly writer.
    absurd; ridiculous; irrational:
    a silly idea.


    Considering the commentary I posted earlier seems to me it was a rather kind descriptive word.
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    Re: Greta Thunberg Is Time's Person Of The Year for 2019

    Okay - let's take it sentence by sentence. What do you find silly about this?
    My message is that we’ll be watching you.
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    Re: Greta Thunberg Is Time's Person Of The Year for 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    I can see no reason why anyone would regard that as "silly". It's certainly well constructed. To be able to do that in a foreign language is even more impressive.
    All she had to do was say it in her own language.
    I am sure that the UN has some very competent interpreters to handle the "foreign language" part.

    I see nothing at all silly in what she had to say.
    Perhaps Tude is one who does not believe that there is a pending climate crisis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    Perhaps Tude is one who does not believe that there is a pending climate crisis?
    Nothing new about climate change What is amazing is how easy it is to create a panic so as to profit from a natural event.
    “The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men,
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