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    Re: Love your neighbor as yourself

    What's the Aramaic word for letter?

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    Re: Love your neighbor as yourself

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniyal View Post
    Just A Though Do You Follow The Bible To The Letter Because It Say Thou Shall Not Kill . Funny How People Can Quote The Scriptures Be It The Qur'aan / Bible Etc But Never Follow It To The Letter Hummmmmmmmm.
    Sheesh, all I did was ask a question.
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    Sheesh, all I did was ask a question.


    Sorry Just Making A Statement Wasn't meant As An Insult Forgive Me This Time Ok

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    Re: Love your neighbor as yourself

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    Sorry Just Making A Statement Wasn't meant As An Insult Forgive Me This Time Ok
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    Re: Love your neighbor as yourself

    Quote Originally Posted by BabyRider View Post
    I haven't spent much (ok, ANY) time studying the koran, but if I had to guess, I'd say there is no where in it that states anything even remotely resembling "neighborly love."
    Just a guess, of course, based on what little I know it DOES teach...



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    Textual analysis reveals that nowhere in the Koran is there an expression of the Golden Rule…therefore, it is of no importance in Islam and Muslims have no reason to observe it. Since Islam's most important message to humanity (the Noble Koran) does not contain the Golden Rule, it is logical that it was unimportant to Allah. This explains why he entirely omitted it from the Koran. The Golden Rule is held to be central by all religions except Islam. Muslims are surprised to learn their faith does not teach it. There religion teaches dualist ethics, not the unitary, universal Golden Rule.

    There is however, a very restricted version of the principle of reciprocity found in the Hadiths. The Hadiths are a non-binding collection of sayings and acts of Mohammed and his companions. They have much less authority than the Koran, but contain a version of the Golden Rule which applies only among "brother" Muslims. This Islamic "brotherhood rule" is not universal and does not apply to non-Muslims.

    Islamic reciprocity is restricted to interactions between Muslim "brothers". (An infidel is not to be addressed as "brother" by a Muslim.)
    The Hadith quotes Mohammed as saying: "None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself." (Number 13 of Imam al-Nawawi's "Forty Hadiths.)

    Other Hadiths clarify the limitation of reciprocity to relations between Muslim brothers:
    Bukhari 9,85,83 Mohammed said: "A Muslim is a brother to other Muslims. He should never oppress them nor should he facilitate their oppression." (Note: but he may oppress infidels)

    Bukhari 8,73,70 Mohammed said: "Harming a Muslim is an evil act; killing a Muslim means rejecting Allah." (Note: but harming or killing an infidel is a mere misdemeanour.)

    Finally, the Koran itself makes it perfectly clear that brotherhood applies only towards other Muslims: (Koran 48:29) : "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are harsh against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other."

    Such a standard is no higher than that of the mafia or another similar “crime family”. Islam does teach this, and there is the proof of it.

    Islam divides the entire world into Islam and the Kafirs (unbelievers) and has two separate sets of ethics for each sphere. The words “kafir” (a disgusting subhuman) and the “jihad” a permanent holy war against the “kafirs” are central doctrines of Islam that completely cancel a universal Golden Rule. Islam’s ethical system is dualistic and opportunistic. “Good” is what is helps Islam grow and “bad” is whatever resists the growth of Islam.

    Almighty Allah thought so little of the Golden Rule, that he entirely excluded it from his most important message to humanity, the Noble Koran. However, he did not forget to include 164 commandments to make permanent war on the non-Moslems, 14 commandments not to befriend them, and many verses expressing how to abuse them in various ways. Approximately 61% of the Koran is an argument that the kufaar are evil for disagreeing with Mohammed and should be treated violently. It is to be emphasized that Islamic jurisprudence rules that all “gentle” verses (regarding kufaar) in the Koran have been annulled by later “harsher” ones. The Koran thus entirely rules out a universal, unitary code of ethics expressed in the Golden Rule. Kufaar are to be killed, decapitated, mutilated, plundered, enslaved, raped, lied to, as required, opportunistically to support the growth of political Islam. Thus, any Hadith that expresses the Golden Rule must be an invalid and/or fabricated one, since it contradicts both the letter and the spirit of Allah’s entirely perfect message, the Koran. Furthermore, the Koran is alleged to be letter-perfect and cannot be changed or added to. Moslems who try to insert the Golden Rule into Allah’s perfect religion commit the sin of innovation (bid’a) and deserve capital punishment under Islamic law. The Fallacy of Conflicting Conditions is a contradiction which rules the Golden Rule null and void in Islam.

    Much misinformation can be pruned away by applying the Fallacy of Conflicting Conditions and analysing the statistical frequency of themes in the Koran.

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