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    Re: The Holy Qur'an

    God in Hebrew is Yahweh.

    God in Greek is Theos.

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    Thanks TED,
    You are right on, God's name begins with a Y.
    The name Jehovah is incorrect because there are no J's in the Hebrew language.

    Yah is a good shortened form of God's name.


    HalleluYAH!

    Praise Yah!

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    Re: The Holy Qur'an

    Quote Originally Posted by gatekeeper View Post
    You are right on, God's name begins with a Y.
    That's fine if God's a Hebrew speaker. Might he not speak Chinese? or Japanese? Could he not think of himself as being called Shangdi or Tianzhu, or Dainichi? Does God refuse to respond to those who call him Dia? A name, surely at least among other things, is what you get called as well as what you call yourself. It's well known that God was always Irish anyway.
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    YAHUWA < Aramic >
    Genesis R.T. ; 2 ; 2 , 4- 6 , ; 3 ; 8 - 9 ; 4 ; 1 , 3 ; 6 ; 3 , 5 ; K.J. ; 2 ; 4 - 5 , ; 3 ; 1 , 8 - 9 , ; 28 ; 13 ; 29 ; 32 , ; 39 ; 5
    In Aramic ( Hebrew ) the word YAHUWA < Aramic > translates As '' He Who Is Who He Is .
    YAHUWA < Aramic > can be used for an Agreeable , '' YAH '' , Or Disagreeable , '' WEH '' , Being , . The word YAHUWA < Aramic > is a title . This title does not pertain to any Individual . It can be pass on to another Being ; Even a mortal can be a YAHUWA < Aramic>

    and more than one is in Malachi Chapter 3 Verse 16 , This is the first name called on by ADAM And EVE'S Children . without Vowels . It is YHWH , Which some groups pronounce as YAHWEH And others pronounce as JEHOVAH . In Babylon , it meant '' Yeh '' Good and '' Weh '' Evil .

    There were 24 YAHWEH Or Elders Stated in the bible . The Head ELOHEEM Is Called YAHUWA Or YEHWEH , MOSES Went up to the mountain and spoke with YAHUWA In Exodus 19 ; 3 It States '' MOSES WENT UP UNTO GOD ( THE ELOHEEM ) AND THE LORD ( YAHUWA ) CALLED UNTO HIM OUT OF THE MOUNTAIN .... Clearly Making A

    Distinction Between ELOHEEM And YAHUWA . Also In Genesis 28 ; 12 - 13 It States '' ... AND BEHOLD THE ANGELS ( MESSENGERS ) AND DESCENDING ON IT , AND BEHOLD THE LORD ( YAHUWA ) STOOD ABOVE IT , AND SAID , I AM THE LORD ( YAHUWA ) GOD ( RLOHEEM ) ... This Quote Is Also Making A Distinction Between The ELOHEEM And YAHUWA The Head Of The ELOHEEM .

    ELYOWN EL ELYOWN EL < Aramic >
    Genesis R.T. ; 14 ; 18 - 20 , 22
    The Word ELYOWN EL ELYOWN EL < Aramic > Mean '' The Highest , The Highest El '' Or Simply '' The Most High '' . This Is When ANU Is Called El
    ELYOWN EL ELYOWN EL < Aramic > But Its The Highest El < Aramic > It Was Taken From Cuneiform And Babylonian And Akkadian Into The Language Of Aramic ( Hebrew ) And In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) When It Called AL ALIY Meaning The Most High '' . AL ALIY Is The 36th Attribute . Throughout The Scriptures ( Genesis 14 ; 22 , 20 ) . The ELOHEEM Worshipped ELYOWN ELYOWN EL Who Is ANU .

    EL SHAADI < Aramic >
    Genesis K.J.V. & R.T.;17 ; 1 , 28 ; 3 , 35 ; 11 , 43 ; 14 , 48 ; 3 , 49 ; 25
    The word EL SHAADI < Aramic > Mean '' The Almighty '' . He is one of the ELOHEEM , A YAHUWA Whose name is MATATRUN Meaning '' The Disputer '' . MATATRUN Is The 11th Of The 24 Elders , DINNER , Meaning '' Righteous Ones Of The Rocket Ship , '' In greek the word for ALMIGHTY , Is PANTOKRATOR Meaning '' All - Powerful '' As found in

    2Corinthians 6 ; 18 , Revelation 1 ; 8 , 4 ; 8 , 11 ; 17 ; 15 ; 3 ; 16 ; 7 , 14 ; 19 ; 6 , 15 ; 21 ; 22 . PANTOKRATOR Comes from the greek words Pas Meaning '' All , Any , Every , The Whole '' ; And KRATOS Meaning '' Dominnion , Mighty , Power , Strength '' . EL SHAADI Was also A title used for Tammuz , The Son Of ISHTAR And DUMMUZI , EL SHAADI In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Is EL SHADIYD Koran 13 ; 13 , 40 ; 22 , 53 ; 5 , 8 ; 52 ) . He TAMMUZ Was A Disagreeable SHAD Meaning '' Demon '' ,

    Who was converted into an Agreeable ELOHEEM By The ELOHEEM NERGAL , TAMMUZ Was assigned to the Planet Earth to oversee The ENOSITES After their transgression in The Garden . In The Old Testament The Word ALMIGHTY - EL SHAADI Is Also Found In
    ( Ruth 1 ; 20 - 21 ; Job 5 ; 17 ; 6 ; 4 , 14 ; 8; 3 , 5 ; 11 ; 7 ; 13 ; 3 ; 15 ; 25 ; 21 ; 15 , 20 ; 22 ; 3 , 17 , 23 , 25 , 26 ) .

    ELOH < Aramic >
    Genesis R.T. ; 15 ; 1 , 10 ; 19 ; 24 ; 24 ; 7 . 27 , 48 ; 31 ; 53 ; 43 ; 7 ..
    The word ELOH Means '' These Beings '' An ELOH Is A Singular Or An Individual ELOHEEM , Each Man Is An ELOH . Any ELOHEEM Can Be An ELOH . When The Hebrew Letters Yod ( ' ) And Miym Are Added To ELOH As A Suffix , You Get The Word ELOHEEM Which Is The Plural Form Of ELOH . It Is The Same As The Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) .

    Word ELAH Or ILAH Which Is Short For ALLAH , The Plural Is ALLAHUMA Meaning '' The Source And Those Being '' . Each ELOHEEM Is An Individual ELOH , And When They Are In A Group They Are ELOHEEM . If They Are Raised To A Supreme Being . They Become EL Not An AL Or EL

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    ALLAH < Arabic >
    2; 255 , 3 ; 23 , 3 ; 62 , 4 ; 87 , 5 ; 47 , 20 ; 8 , 20 ; 14 ,
    ALLAH Is another name for ANU , But ALLAH Is not only reserved as his name because all the other beings , The ELOHEEM , ANUNNAQI Are ALLAHS , The Koran Even confirms that , There is more than one ALLAH ( Koran 53 ; 19 , 10 ; 10 , 36 ; 23 , 38 ; 6 ) , ALLAH Means The Source '' . This word ALLAH Came from The Hebrew word Eloh < Aramic > Which is from The Ancient Babylonian , Eloh < Aramic > . ALLAH Is made up of A definite Article Al ( J , The ) And Ha .. Him / It ) The Name ALLAH Stems from the root '' Alaha ''

    Meaning ; '' He Worshipped , He Adored , He Served . Don't Believe Me , Check It Out ! You can also find the fact , That Allah < Arabic > Is Not A Name , But Really A Form Of The Aramic / Hebrew Eloh , In A Book By J.R. Smith , Entitled '' Arabic '' - A Complete Course For Beginners '' On Page 155 , Where it definer '' Allah '' And It Says , And I Quote ; '' Allah Not A Name , But Simply A Contracted Form Of The Arabic Word El Elah < Arabic > . Meaning , '' The God '' , Which Is Equivalent To El Eloh < Aramic > .

    You will also see this spelling Ilaahu < Arabic > . The true name for the Creator whom we call ALLAH Is Hu , Hu Or Huwa Is the explanation of The Ha In ALLAH . The Egyptian called their great deity '' Hu '' , Meaning '' The Creative Will Of Force '' , Thousand Of Years Before Your Koran .

    ALLAHUMMA < Arabic >
    3 ; 26 , 5 ; 114 , 8 ; 32 , 10 ; 10 , 39 ; 46 .
    The word ALLAHUMMA < Arabic > Means '' O Allah The Source < Arabic > And Hum '' They '' -- The Eloheem Anunnaqis . '' ALLAHUMMA < Arabic > Is another word that was derived from The Hebrew word ELOHEEM , Meaning These Beings , Or A Group Of Elohs , ALLAHUMAS Or ELOHEEM Are Angels Of El , Messengers Of El -- ANU . Usually in The Koran When it says , '' That We Did This , Or We Created This Or Our Signs , Etc '' . It is referring to these ALLAHUMMAS Or ELOHEEM , ANNUNNAQIS . They are physical Angelic Beings ; No Spooks Or Spirits Or Ghosts .

    They Are Beings That Do The Work Of El , Or ALLAH . The word ALLAHUMMA , Or ELOHEEM Is found throughout The Scroll of The Koran and is falsely translated , As A Single With The Word , ' God . The name ALLAHUMMA Or ELOHEEM Is Used For Benevolent , Agreeable And Malevolent , Disagreeable Beings ; And Even In The Case For Human Being As Found In Exodus 7 ; 1 ; When Yahuwa Made Moses An ELOHEEM To Pharaoh Rameses ll .


    HUWA < Arabic >
    2 ; 29 , 2 ; 137 , 2 l 255 , 3 ; 2 , 3 ; 6 , 3 ; 150 , 5 ; 120 , 6 ; 2 . 11 ; 34 .
    The Ashuric / Syriac Arabic HUWA < Arabic > Means '' He Who Is '' Like The Words That Preceeded It , This Word Also Came From The Aramic Hebrew Word Also Came From The Aramic / Hebrew Word , YAHUWA , And Translates As '' He Who Is Who He Is '' . Both Of These Came From The Ancient Egyptian Deity HU , '' The Force Of Creative Will , '' Another Name For ANU , HUWA Or YAHUWA Can Be Used For An Agreeable '' Yah '' , Or Disagreeable Being , '' Weh , '' The Word '' YAHUWA '' Is A Title .

    This Title Does Not Pertain To Any Individuals . It Can Be Passed On To Another Being ; Even A Mortal Can Be A '' YAHUWA , And More Than One , As Found In Malachi 4 ; 5 , This Is The First Name Called On By Adam And Eve's Children . Without Vowels . It Is YHWH , Which Some Groups Pronounce As YAHWEH ; And Other Pronounce As JEHOVAH , However , In Ancient Babylon , YEHWEH Meat ; YEH '' Good '' And WEH '' '' Evil . ''

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    Re: The Holy Qur'an

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    The Koran was composed to be a troop motivator.

    Since 61% of the Koran is hate messages directed against the kufaar, it must be understood as a collection of harangues addressed to Arabian tribal troops to inspire courage and a desire for booty and female prizes.

    The Koran is 61% about violence against the evil unbelievers who resist Mohammed and refuse to allow him to humiliate them. The basic two ideas in Islam are dualism (two codes of ethics, as well as two of almost everything) and the idea of submission. No one is as submitted as a slave and the master/slave subtext informs all of Islam from top to bottom. Women in Islam gain paradise by being 100% submitted and pleasing to their husbands. The ideal Islamic marriage is a model of slavery and submission.

    Modern scholarship has revealed the Koran to be a "lectionary" or collection of pieces of sermons and writings of a mysterious Arabian tribal, warrior chieftan. His vicious sermons motivated his followers to raid, attack, kill, plunder, enslave and rape anyone who disagreed with him. His title as Messianic tribal leader was "The Praised One" (mohammed). The Koran is a hodge-podge of texts thrown together out of chronological order, without normal rules of good grammar or good writing, flitting suddenly to new topics, and obviously very poorly edited.

    We are asked to believe this poor, haphazard collection of hate diatribes directed equally at Jews, Christians and polytheists, is a great work of art.

    It is a lot of incoherent ranting: 61% of the Koran repeats and repears the argument that anyone who disagrees with Mohammed will be violently treated.

    Along with all the other dualisms in the Koran (i.e. master over slave, men over women, Moslems over kufaar), there are two Korans: one from Mecca and another from Medina, which entirely supercedes, annuls and abrogates the first.

    The somewhat "gentle" verses of the Koran regarding unbelievers were all written in the prepolitical "Meccan" period. All classical Islamic scholars say these verses were all surpassed and abrogated by the later political verses composed in the "Medina" period.

    Islam divides all humanity into two groups with two codes of ethics for the treatment of each group. "Jihad" is the permanent holy war which Allah commands 164 times in the Koran against the disgusting, subhuman beings that Allah despises. Killing them is never a crime, but occasionally it may be a mere misdemeanor.

    A world authority on old Arabic handwriting, Dr. Gerd Puin studied the oldest existing Koranic fragments. In the 1999 Atlantic Monthly, Puin is quoted as saying that:

    "My idea is that the Koran is a kind of cocktail of texts that were not all understood even at the time of Muhammad. Many of them may even be a hundred years older than Islam itself. Even within the Islamic traditions there is a huge body of contradictory information, including a significant Christian substrate; one can derive a whole Islamic anti-history from them if one wants. The Qur’an claims for itself that it is ‘mubeen,’ or clear, but if you look at it, you will notice that every fifth sentence or so simply doesn’t make sense. Many Muslims will tell you otherwise, of course, but the fact is that a fifth of the Qur’anic text is just incomprehensible. This is what has caused the traditional anxiety regarding translation. If the Qur’an is not comprehensible, if it can’t even be understood in Arabic, then it’s not translatable into any language. That is why Muslims are afraid. Since the Qur’an claims repeatedly to be clear but is not—there is an obvious and serious contradiction. Something else must be going on.”

    In other words, Mohammed's successors needed justification for their continued dictatorial powers and "cooked up" a book composed of Mohammed's hate speeches. Moslems, who become aware of the poor quality of Arabic in the Koran and its frequent lack of intelligibility, are often more offended by the violence to Arabic grammar and simple logic contained in the Koran, than the fact that it is an undisguised, cruel diatribe against the "other".

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    Holy Quran 2 ; 142 - 147 ( The Turning Of The Qiblah From Jerusalem To Mecca ) And I Quote ; 142. The fools among the people will say: "What hath turned them from the Qibla to which they were used?" Say: To Allah belong both east and West: He guideth whom He will to a Way that is straight. 143. Thus, have We made of you an Ummat justly balanced, that ye might be witnesses over the nations, and the Messenger a witness over yourselves; and We appointed the Qibla to which thou wast used, only to test those who followed the Messenger from those who would turn on their heels (From the Faith). Indeed it was (A change) momentous, except to those guided by Allah. And never would Allah Make your faith of no effect. For Allah is to all people Most surely full of kindness, Most Merciful. 144. We see the turning of thy face (for guidance to the heavens: now Shall We turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque: Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction. The people of the Book know well that that is the truth from their Lord. Nor is Allah unmindful of what they do. 145. Even if thou wert to bring to the people of the Book all the Signs (together), they would not follow Thy Qibla; nor art thou going to follow their Qibla; nor indeed will they follow each other's Qibla. If thou after the knowledge hath reached thee, Wert to follow their (vain) desires,-then wert thou Indeed (clearly) in the wrong. 146. The people of the Book know this as they know their own sons; but some of them conceal the truth which they themselves know. 147. The Truth is from thy Lord; so be not at all in doubt.



    Holy Quran 2 ; 168 - 176 , ( Eat Of The Lawful Foods ) And I Quote 168. O ye people! Eat of what is on earth, Lawful and good; and do not follow the footsteps of the evil one, for he is to you an avowed enemy. 169. For he commands you what is evil and shameful, and that ye should say of Allah that of which ye have no knowledge. 170. When it is said to them: "Follow what Allah hath revealed:" They say: "Nay! we shall follow the ways of our fathers." What! even though their fathers Were void of wisdom and guidance? 171. The parable of those who reject Faith is as if one were to shout Like a goat-herd, to things that listen to nothing but calls and cries: Deaf, dumb, and blind, they are void of wisdom. 172. O ye who believe! Eat of the good things that We have provided for you, and be grateful to Allah, if it is Him ye worship. 173. He hath only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that on which any other name hath been invoked besides that of Allah. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- then is he guiltless. For Allah is Oft-forgiving Most Merciful. 174. Those who conceal Allah.s revelations in the Book, and purchase for them a miserable profit,- they swallow into themselves naught but Fire; Allah will not address them on the Day of Resurrection. Nor purify them: Grievous will be their penalty. 175. They are the ones who buy Error in place of Guidance and Torment in place of Forgiveness. Ah! what boldness (They show) for the Fire! 176. (Their doom is) because Allah sent down the Book in truth but those who seek causes of dispute in the Book are in a schism Far (from the purpose).


    Holy Quiran 2 ; 180 - 182 Laws Concerning Death ) And I Quote ; 180. It is prescribed, when death approaches any of you, if he leave any goods that he make a bequest to parents and next of kin, according to reasonable usage; this is due from the Allah.fearing. 181. If anyone changes the bequest after hearing it, the guilt shall be on those who make the change. For Allah hears and knows (All things). 182. But if anyone fears partiality or wrong-doing on the part of the testator, and makes peace between (The parties concerned), there is no wrong in him: For Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.


    Holy Quran 2 ; 183 - 189 ( To Fast As Those Did Before You ) , And I Quote ; 183. O ye who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before you, that ye may (learn) self-restraint,- 184. (Fasting) for a fixed number of days; but if any of you is ill, or on a journey, the prescribed number (Should be made up) from days later. For those who can do it (With hardship), is a ransom, the feeding of one that is indigent. But he that will give more, of his own free will,- it is better for him. And it is better for you that ye fast, if ye only knew. 185. Ramadhan is the (month) in which was sent down the Qur'an, as a guide to mankind, also clear (Signs) for guidance and judgment (Between right and wrong). So every one of you who is present (at his home) during that month should spend it in fasting, but if any one is ill, or on a journey, the prescribed period (Should be made up) by days later. Allah intends every facility for you; He does not want to put to difficulties. (He wants you) to complete the prescribed period, and to glorify Him in that He has guided you; and perchance ye shall be grateful. 186. When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way. 187. Permitted to you, on the night of the fasts, is the approach to your wives. They are your garments and ye are their garments. Allah knoweth what ye used to do secretly among yourselves; but He turned to you and forgave you; so now associate with them, and seek what Allah Hath ordained for you, and eat and drink, until the white thread of dawn appear to you distinct from its black thread; then complete your fast Till the night appears; but do not associate with your wives while ye are in retreat in the mosques. Those are Limits (set by) Allah. Approach not nigh thereto. Thus doth Allah make clear His Signs to men: that they may learn self-restraint. 188. And do not eat up your property among yourselves for vanities, nor use it as bait for the judges, with intent that ye may eat up wrongfully and knowingly a little of (other) people's property. 189. They ask thee concerning the New Moons. Say: They are but signs to mark fixed periods of time in (the affairs of) men, and for Pilgrimage. It is no virtue if ye enter your houses from the back: It is virtue if ye fear Allah. Enter houses through the proper doors: And fear Allah. That ye may prosper.


    Holy Quran 2 ; 190 - 196 , ( Pilgrimage And Fighting In Self Defense ) And I Quote ; 190. Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. 191. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. 192. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. 193. And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression. 194. The prohibited month for the prohibited month,- and so for all things prohibited,- there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves. 195. And spend of your substance in the cause of Allah, and make not your own hands contribute to (your) destruction; but do good; for Allah loveth those who do good. 196. And complete the Hajj or 'umra in the service of Allah. But if ye are prevented (From completing it), send an offering for sacrifice, such as ye may find, and do not shave your heads until the offering reaches the place of sacrifice. And if any of you is ill, or has an ailment in his scalp, (Necessitating shaving), (He should) in compensation either fast, or feed the poor, or offer sacrifice; and when ye are in peaceful conditions (again), if any one wishes to continue the 'umra on to the hajj, He must make an offering, such as he can afford, but if he cannot afford it, He should fast three days during the hajj and seven days on his return, Making ten days in all. This is for those whose household is not in (the precincts of) the Sacred Mosque. And fear Allah, and know that Allah Is strict in punishment.


    Holy Quran 2 ; 197 - 210 ( No Disputing During The Pilgrimage Months ~ Warnings To The Mischief Makers ) And I Quote ; 197. For Hajj are the months well known. If any one undertakes that duty therein, Let there be no obscenity, nor wickedness, nor wrangling in the Hajj. And whatever good ye do, (be sure) Allah knoweth it. And take a provision (With you) for the journey, but the best of provisions is right conduct. So fear Me, o ye that are wise. 198. It is no crime in you if ye seek of the bounty of your Lord (during pilgrimage). Then when ye pour down from (Mount) Arafat, celebrate the praises of Allah at the Sacred Monument, and celebrate His praises as He has directed you, even though, before this, ye went astray. 199. Then pass on at a quick pace from the place whence it is usual for the multitude so to do, and ask for Allah.s forgiveness. For Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. 200. So when ye have accomplished your holy rites, celebrate the praises of Allah, as ye used to celebrate the praises of your fathers,- yea, with far more Heart and soul. There are men who say: "Our Lord! Give us (Thy bounties) in this world!" but they will have no portion in the Hereafter. 201. And there are men who say: "Our Lord! Give us good in this world and good in the Hereafter, and defend us from the torment of the Fire!" 202. To these will be allotted what they have earned; and Allah is quick in account. 203. Celebrate the praises of Allah during the Appointed Days. But if any one hastens to leave in two days, there is no blame on him, and if any one stays on, there is no blame on him, if his aim is to do right. Then fear Allah, and know that ye will surely be gathered unto Him. 204. There is the type of man whose speech about this world's life May dazzle thee, and he calls Allah to witness about what is in his heart; yet is he the most contentious of enemies. 205. When he turns his back, His aim everywhere is to spread mischief through the earth and destroy crops and cattle. But Allah loveth not mischief. 206. When it is said to him, "Fear Allah., He is led by arrogance to (more) crime. Enough for him is Hell;-An evil bed indeed (To lie on)! 207. And there is the type of man who gives his life to earn the pleasure of Allah. And Allah is full of kindness to (His) devotees. 208. O ye who believe! Enter into Islam whole-heartedly; and follow not the footsteps of the evil one; for he is to you an avowed enemy. 209. If ye backslide after the clear (Signs) have come to you, then know that Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. 210. Will they wait until Allah comes to them in canopies of clouds, with angels (in His train) and the question is (thus) settled? but to Allah do all questions go back (for decision).
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    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    That's fine if God's a Hebrew speaker. Might he not speak Chinese? or Japanese? Could he not think of himself as being called Shangdi or Tianzhu, or Dainichi? Does God refuse to respond to those who call him Dia? A name, surely at least among other things, is what you get called as well as what you call yourself. It's well known that God was always Irish anyway.

    I beg to differ... God is Scottish and his name is Gordon.

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