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The title is a quote from Trumpolini's teleprompted performance in front of Congress on Tuesday. Those are the words he spoke. "Our terrible drug epidemic will slow down and ultimately stop".

I have, as yet, seen no indication in anything he's said as to how he intends this wonderful result to be brought about. The thread is here in case anyone knows, or perhaps someone comes across background.

The demeaning self-humiliating standing ovations from Congress echoed the worst excesses of Mao or Stalin, with the exception that most of the people applauding Mao or Stalin thought Mao or Stalin was a worthy leader. I honestly believe there was nobody in the Congressional audience who thought that of Donald Trump. I also doubt any of them thought the words "our terrible drug epidemic will slow down and ultimately stop" were remotely rational, much less attainable under the current administration.



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spot;1507048 wrote: The title is a quote from Trumpolini's teleprompted performance in front of Congress on Tuesday. Those are the words he spoke. "Our terrible drug epidemic will slow down and ultimately stop".

I have, as yet, seen no indication in anything he's said as to how he intends this wonderful result to be brought about. The thread is here in case anyone knows, or perhaps someone comes across background.


I must admit I don't remember that quote or find it in the text of his speech.

President Trump's First Address to Congress

With that said, I did hear of some ways he intends to address the problem.

spot;1507048 wrote: The demeaning self-humiliating standing ovations from Congress echoed the worst excesses of Mao or Stalin, with the exception that most of the people applauding Mao or Stalin thought Mao or Stalin was a worthy leader. I honestly believe there was nobody in the Congressional audience who thought that of Donald Trump. I also doubt any of them thought the words "our terrible drug epidemic will slow down and ultimately stop" were remotely rational, much less attainable under the current administration.


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I presume that it is just setting up for an expanded "war on drugs" to fill the for-profit private prisons.
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You get the inpression if he farted in a lift it would bottled and sold to his supporters as an efficacious cure for all their peoblems.

At least they can vote him and the republicans out of officw with brexit we are well an trully stuffed.
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tude dog;1507049 wrote: I must admit I don't remember that quote or find it in the text of his speech.


The Time magazine website punctuated it differently. From your link: "Our terrible drug epidemic will slow down and ultimately, stop." His punctuation isn't explicit in his delivery of the speech so it has to be guessed by the transcriber, but the words are all there. Personally I think Time has been caught with its finger up its bum, if there's a comma after "ultimately" there should be one before as well. That's what we call a rule of grammar.



With that said, I did hear of some ways he intends to address the problem.


I didn't. Perhaps you could summarize, and say where you heard it so that we can explore further.
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tude dog;1507049 wrote: I must admit I don't remember that quote or find it in the text of his speech.

President Trump's First Address to Congress






From your link, near the top :-



Our terrible drug epidemic will slow down and ultimately, stop.

And our neglected inner cities will see a rebirth of hope, safety, and opportunity.

Above all else, we will keep our promises to the American people.

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Bryn Mawr;1507066 wrote: From your link, near the top :-


Thanks for that.

I remembered him speaking of the inner cities and their problems. I tend to ignore promises. What really interests me is what is his plan to reduce the problems like in Obama's hometown of Chicago. As President Obama never had a thing to say for his people who first elected him their representative in the Illinois State Senate.

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To stop the flow of narcotics one needs to stop the flow from Mexico. Build the wall!
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librtyhead;1507073 wrote: To stop the flow of narcotics one needs to stop the flow from Mexico. Build the wall!


Then the drugs would go round it - too much coastline to police continuously.
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and build a deep moat. Aren't the Mexicans building tunnels too.
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minks;1507089 wrote: and build a deep moat. Aren't the Mexicans building tunnels too.


We have a long border, there are many ways to go pass a physical wall.



Longest Drug Tunnel Under U.S.-Mexico Border Unearthed

Drug catapult mounted on Arizona-Mexico border fence is first of its kind



The idea of literally building a wall is a fantasy. Not realistic at all.

With that said I am all for a barrier.

Actually, from what I read, Mexicans are not the biggest illegal immigrants, but others who pass through Mexico from Central America and elsewhere.
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spot;1507048 wrote:

The demeaning self-humiliating standing ovations from Congress echoed the worst excesses of Mao or Stalin, with the exception that most of the people applauding Mao or Stalin thought Mao or Stalin was a worthy leader. I honestly believe there was nobody in the Congressional audience who thought that of Donald Trump. I also doubt any of them thought the words "our terrible drug epidemic will slow down and ultimately stop" were remotely rational, much less attainable under the current administration.



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Actually, such actions by the Audiance isn't unpresident, though I believe the Democratic Party need to get a grip.

Congress’s telling body language during six key moments of Trump’s address

Oh, BYW, nobody was escorted out and shot.
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tude dog;1507095 wrote: Actually, such actions by the Audiance isn't unpresident, though I believe the Democratic Party need to get a grip.I'm trying to imagine the government in Westminster behaving like that during the Queen's Speech each year. Nothing, nada, not a single handclap from start to finish. Less is more, dignity is paramount.





Oh, BYW, nobody was escorted out and shot.You've put your finger on what they're doing wrong there, obviously.
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spot;1507096 wrote: I'm trying to imagine the government in Westminster behaving like that during the Queen's Speech each year. Nothing, nada, not a single handclap from start to finish. Less is more, dignity is paramount.


Donald is not a Queen. We don't bow to him. We address him as Mr. President.

I might think he is more like a Prime minister.

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tude dog;1507097 wrote: Donald is not a Queen. We don't bow to him.You-all certainly stand whenever he enters a room. Where I come from that's a pretty good indication.



I might think he is more like a Prime minister.I thought he was your Head of State. British Prime Ministers tend to be the leader of the party with the largest representation in the House of Commons, at least for the last 210 years, and they directly appoint or dismiss the chap who sets the country's national budget depending on whether their Prime Ministerial spending demands are instantly approved or not. I'm sure your President would love to command such power.
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spot;1507098 wrote: You-all certainly stand whenever he enters a room. Where I come from that's a pretty good indication.


If you walked into a room so we would meet, I would stand to say hello and shake your hand.

spot;1507098 wrote: I thought he was your Head of State. British Prime Ministers tend to be the leader of the party with the largest representation in the House of Commons, at least for the last 210 years, and they directly appoint or dismiss the chap who sets the country's national budget depending on whether their Prime Ministerial spending demands are instantly approved or not. I'm sure your President would love to command such power.


Obviously, we have different systems. Our President is view as spokesman for the country but has limited powers. We don't have a Head of State.

The President is elected by the People, not a political party.
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can't imagine the cost of a wall or a moat for that matter, between the USA and Canada
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tude dog;1507097 wrote: Donald is not a Queen. We don't bow to him. We address him as Mr. President.




I don't address him at all.
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tude dog;1507107 wrote:

The President is elected by the People, not a political party.


Excuse me. This president was elected by the electoral college, NOT the people.
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The only thing he will do is end recreational marijuana in the states that are so far lucky enough to have it. Long live the Underground. Most pot is grown within the United States. Phuking Killjoy. Miserable man, no sense of humor or joy.
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librtyhead;1507073 wrote: To stop the flow of narcotics one needs to stop the flow from Mexico. Build the wall!


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AnneBoleyn;1507114 wrote: Excuse me. This president was elected by the electoral college, NOT the people.


It was the voters who told them how to vote.
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AnneBoleyn;1507114 wrote: Excuse me. This president was elected by the electoral college, NOT the people.


you know how the electoral college works right? it makes 100% sense! like why should some hick town have the same beliefs as a huge city full of "progressives"? everyone deserves a voice, omgosh im like in government class all over again :wah:
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Omni_Skittles;1507256 wrote: you know how the electoral college works right? it makes 100% sense! like why should some hick town have the same beliefs as a huge city full of "progressives"? everyone deserves a voice, omgosh im like in government class all over again :wah:


I must admit I don't get it.

Twenty million people vote but that counts for nothing, the state bosses decide how to vote (first passed the post, split vote or even against the results of the popular vote) and half a dozen people make the votes that actually count?

Why not go with the original vote accumulated nationwide? You're voting for a President of the federal USoA so why do the states get involved?
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:yh_rotflspot;1507048 wrote: Trumpolini's


ROFLMAO!! "Trumpolini!" That's even better than "Twitler!" I'm totally stealing that...:wah::yh_clap:yh_worshp
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Bryn Mawr;1507275 wrote: I must admit I don't get it.

Twenty million people vote but that counts for nothing, the state bosses decide how to vote (first passed the post, split vote or even against the results of the popular vote) and half a dozen people make the votes that actually count?

Why not go with the original vote accumulated nationwide? You're voting for a President of the federal USoA so why do the states get involved?


It gives rural towns more of a voice. An even say. Like say san Francisco compared to some small town of 1000k people. Just because millions from san Francisco think alike doesn't mean that the people from small towns do If it were based solely on majority those small towns don't even stand a chance. And an electoral voter is their voice.
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Omni_Skittles;1507285 wrote: It gives rural towns more of a voice. An even say. Like say san Francisco compared to some small town of 1000k people. Just because millions from san Francisco think alike doesn't mean that the people from small towns do If it were based solely on majority those small towns don't even stand a chance. And an electoral voter is their voice.


You'll have to explain that one to me.

One person, one vote, one voice - add all the votes together and see who gets the most. That way the individual in SF gets no more and no less that the individual in Hicksville.

I guess I don't know enough of the background to understand the College system.
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Bryn Mawr;1507288 wrote: You'll have to explain that one to me.

One person, one vote, one voice - add all the votes together and see who gets the most. That way the individual in SF gets no more and no less that the individual in Hicksville.

I guess I don't know enough of the background to understand the College system.


What I'm saying is san Francisco is obviously a smaller area crowded by a much larger Percent of people and mostly they share the same ideology's not all but mostly... But over here its a small town about the same size we obviously have different needs then san Francisco but without electoral voting 1000s of small town ideas don't matter. if every single vote was counted then your forcing all these small towns and people with different opinions of people to not have a voice simply by large town dominance. Yes Hillary won by millions but look where she won.... And look where trump won. It makes sense to me I guess 😂
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That'll be the principle of giving every community a significant voice instead of allowing the cities to drown out everyone else. You allow one person one vote, and then you boost the baseline by giving rural communities their own electors. It works that way when a State splits its electors instead of making all of them vote the way the majority of the State went. Allowing each State to invent its own rule might be a bit unfair.
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Bryn Mawr;1507288 wrote: You'll have to explain that one to me.

One person, one vote, one voice - add all the votes together and see who gets the most. That way the individual in SF gets no more and no less that the individual in



Hicksville.

I guess I don't know enough of the background to understand the College system.


States with fewer population feared being bullied by more populous states.

In short to get the original thirteen states to agree all wanted equal representation in the new federal government. The EC was one of the ways.



Rather than give each state an equal number of votes, they wanted to give the people a voice, hence the House of Representatives.

You have to read the Constitution to see how the powers are divided, such as only the House can spend money and the Senate to approve treaties and certain government appointments.

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I been to Townhall type meeting where both my local state level Senator and Representative agree that most of their work isn't about Republican and Democrat, but Rural and Urban interests. Not a level playing field for rural folk.

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I can say that as someone who came here from Los Angeles, CA, definitely urban, but born in rural and family in rural.

I grew up well aware of the insane concept of one man one vote.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._Sims

A state Constitution, pattered like the Federal is Unconstitutional.

Go figure.
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tude dog;1507308 wrote: States with fewer population feared being bullied by more populous states.

In short to get the original thirteen states to agree all wanted equal representation in the new federal government. The EC was one of the ways.



Rather than give each state an equal number of votes, they wanted to give the people a voice, hence the House of Representatives.

You have to read the Constitution to see how the powers are divided, such as only the House can spend money and the Senate to approve treaties and certain government appointments.

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I been to Townhall type meeting where both my local state level Senator and Representative agree that most of their work isn't about Republican and Democrat, but Rural and Urban interests. Not a level playing field for rural folk.

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I can say that as someone who came here from Los Angeles, CA, definitely urban, but born in rural and family in rural.

I grew up well aware of the insane concept of one man one vote.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._Sims

A state Constitution, pattered like the Federal is Unconstitutional.

Go figure.


The problems over here have come where the rule has not been one man one vote but if the idea is to equalise the power of the urban vs the rural and the populations are vastly skewed then I guess you have to devalue the urban vote. I can think of better ways to do that though.
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spot;1507304 wrote: That'll be the principle of giving every community a significant voice instead of allowing the cities to drown out everyone else. You allow one person one vote, and then you boost the baseline by giving rural communities their own electors. It works that way when a State splits its electors instead of making all of them vote the way the majority of the State went. Allowing each State to invent its own rule might be a bit unfair.


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