Led Zeppelin are the greatest hard rock band of all time: Discuss?

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:24 pm

OK then, lets be having ye? The Zeppelin were playing the O2 arena in London tonight, now I am guessing that they don't quite rock the way they did in their heydey, but in their time, I doubt anyone has ever quite rocked like the boys from the mothership. Anyone wanna question that?

P.S. If you even try and compare any of those stupid girlie bands like Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, or f-ing Greenday (argghhh) or the likes of that mofo-ing crap to Zeppelin I will personally ring the USAF and have them drop a daisy cutter on your house. :guitarist

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:39 pm

Galbally;737683 wrote: OK then, lets be having ye? The Zeppelin were playing the O2 arena in London tonight, now I am guessing that they don't quite rock the way they did in their heydey, but in their time, I doubt anyone has ever quite rocked like the boys from Rock's mothership. Anyone wanna question that?

P.S. If you even try and compare any of those stupid girlie bands like Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, or f-ing Greenday (argghhh) or the likes of that mofo-ing crap to Zeppelin I will personally ring the USAF and have them drop a daisy cutter on your house. :guitarist

YOU ROCK!! I agree 100% with you Galbally!!

I love Zepplin and have handed that love down to my children....they appreciate GOOD music!!!:guitarist:guitarist

dubs · Post by **dubs** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:48 pm

No one in their right mind would disagree with you G........:guitarist:guitarist:guitarist:guitarist

Post by **spot** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:57 pm

dubs;737697 wrote: No one in their right mind would disagree with you G........:guitarist:guitarist:guitarist:guitarist

That, presumably, is a subtle cue for my appearance.

Firstly Galbally I think it's quite possible that they're as good as at their best, there's several groups around from back then of whom that'd be true.

As to who might be better metal than Zep the first thought would be Richie Blackmore's Rainbow because Ronny James Dio's a better vocalist when he gets the wind behind him. I'm a heathen and preferred Rainbow to Deep Purple, I'm sure I'll have to answer for that in the afterlife.

Snooze · Post by **Snooze** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:10 pm

I dunno, the Stones were pretty amazing in their day... and The Who.

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:24 pm

Led Zeppelin still rock... and they are in my age group.

(I bought one of their albums back when I was 19.)

Glad to hear their show was a big hit.

Snooze · Post by **Snooze** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:36 pm

Was Bad Co considered hard rock? They're my fave.

dubs · Post by **dubs** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:46 pm

spot;737701 wrote: That, presumably, is a subtle cue for my appearance.

Firstly Galbally I think it's quite possible that they're as good as at their best, there's several groups around from back then of whom that'd be true.

As to who might be better metal than Zep the first thought would be Richie Blackmore's Rainbow because Ronny James Dio's a better vocalist when he gets the wind behind him. I'm a heathen and preferred Rainbow to Deep Purple, I'm sure I'll have to answer for that in the afterlife.

I stand by my statement! And yes, you're a heathen....

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:07 pm

they are on live right now on VH1

KB. · Post by **KB.** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:32 pm

As far as rock goes they are my favorite. I still love my southern bands from that time like Allman Brothers though.

Hell I wrote a story about the first time I heard Going to California.

moonpie · Post by **moonpie** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:33 pm

Wish I had a good comment, but in their hey day I was living in Texas and it was country all the way for this cowgirl.:wah:

JacksDad · Post by **JacksDad** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:06 pm

Gall.

Love and respect you man but I think Aerosmith may have taken the throne.

Maybe I should do a battle of the bands radidio show.

:D

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:19 pm

JacksDad;737774 wrote: Gall.

Love and respect you man but I think Aerosmith may have taken the throne.

Maybe I should do a battle of the bands radidio show.

:D

I had a friend I worked with a few years ago get VERY upset with me, because I compared the Stones to Aerosmith and said that they were equally as good as each other, and that I actually prefer Aerosmith over the Stones....she got VERY upset with me, as if I offended her.....It was afterall....just my opinon!:rolleyes:

KB. · Post by **KB.** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:06 pm

Back Back Train by Aerosmith is one of my top three all time rock songs.

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:07 pm

KB.;737793 wrote: Back Back Train by Aerosmith is one of my top three all time rock songs.

I'm with you !!! Awesome song!!

:guitarist:guitarist:guitarist

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:38 pm

:guitarist Led Zeppelin Rocks ....!!!

moonpie · Post by **moonpie** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:42 pm

CARLA;737805 wrote: :guitarist Led Zeppelin Rocks ....!!!

Sounds to me I was living under a rock!! But this is what happens when you live in TX, you get so totally into their stuff too. Good food, good music, good beer, but too much summer.:wah:

drumbunny1 · Post by **drumbunny1** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:10 pm

I absolutly LOVE Zepplin!!! They are the best "Metal" band ever.....yes even better than Metallica!!! BUT they are, in my mind tied with Pink Floyd as my two faves!!! I'm also wondering how good they did....no way were they bad ofcourse...and now that they're all older and off drugs (I Hope) it could go either way...some of the best bands made their best music while on drugs...but I also saw Styx last year...thinking they were all old men out of their time...but they freaking ROCKED!!!! Also...John Bonhams son played drums...I thought that was pretty cool!!!! :guitarist YEAH!!! I'm just bummed I couldn't go!!! :-1

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:58 am

spot;737701 wrote: That, presumably, is a subtle cue for my appearance.

Firstly Galbally I think it's quite possible that they're as good as at their best, there's several groups around from back then of whom that'd be true.

As to who might be better metal than Zep the first thought would be Richie Blackmore's Rainbow because Ronny James Dio's a better vocalist when he gets the wind behind him. I'm a heathen and preferred Rainbow to Deep Purple, I'm sure I'll have to answer for that in the afterlife.

Nah, I don't think Rainbow are better than Zeppelin Spot, though there are not a bad band, but we are talking about Led Zeppelin here. You certainly will have to answer for preffering Rainbow to Deep Purple as well (or so my friends who were teenagers in the 1970s are telling me!) I did hear that the concert rocked though, and thats great! I would love to see them live.

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:53 am

drumbunny1;737847 wrote: I absolutly LOVE Zepplin!!! They are the best "Metal" band ever.....yes even better than Metallica!!! BUT they are, in my mind tied with Pink Floyd as my two faves!!! I'm also wondering how good they did....no way were they bad ofcourse...and now that they're all older and off drugs (I Hope) it could go either way...some of the best bands made their best music while on drugs...but I also saw Styx last year...thinking they were all old men out of their time...but they freaking ROCKED!!!! Also...John Bonhams son played drums...I thought that was pretty cool!!!! :guitarist YEAH!!! I'm just bummed I couldn't go!!! :-1

I was having that disscussion with someone last night, how I love Aerosmiths "drug induced" stuff better than their "sober stuff"! I agree....and it just seems the older stuff is more meaningful....at least to me it does....:rolleyes:

Uncle Kram · Post by **Uncle Kram** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:11 am

Snooze;737718 wrote: Was Bad Co considered hard rock? They're my fave.

Now you're talking !

They really came from the same British Blues based stable. And of course they were the only other band to appear on Zeppelins Swansong.

Back in 1979, Bad Co. played 3 consecutive nights at Birmingham Odeon and for all 3 shows, I had the middle seat on the front row. What made this a real privilege was that for 2 of those nights, Robert Plant and Jimmy Page came onstage to jam with Bad Company. That was one hell of a collaboration. :guitarist.

I would imagine last nights show was almost a pseudo-religious experience.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:34 pm

Was Led Zep the definitive rock band in its day ?

No.

There were plenty of other guys that were sweating it out on the stage at the same time.

They did come along at the right time with a good product and plenty of it though.

Comparing bands is apples and oranges.

mikeinie · Post by **mikeinie** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:45 am

Led Zeppelin

CCR

Grand Funk Railroad

Lynard Skynyrd

Euria Heap

Rory Gallagher

Alice Cooper

Rush

And many others already mentioned by others rocked me for many years.

Uncle Kram · Post by **Uncle Kram** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:13 am

I've been giving "Physical Graffiti" a hammering in the car over the weekend. It was always my favourite. :guitarist

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:11 pm

Galbally;737683 wrote: OK then, lets be having ye? The Zeppelin were playing the O2 arena in London tonight, now I am guessing that they don't quite rock the way they did in their heydey, but in their time, I doubt anyone has ever quite rocked like the boys from the mothership. Anyone wanna question that?

P.S. If you even try and compare any of those stupid girlie bands like Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, or f-ing Greenday (argghhh) or the likes of that mofo-ing crap to Zeppelin I will personally ring the USAF and have them drop a daisy cutter on your house. :guitarist

Having seen them at Earls Court in '75 I have to say they do, indeed, rock.

Would I pay big money to see them now? Having heard some of the prices paid, they're out of my league.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:27 pm

spot;737701 wrote: That, presumably, is a subtle cue for my appearance.

Firstly Galbally I think it's quite possible that they're as good as at their best, there's several groups around from back then of whom that'd be true.

As to who might be better metal than Zep the first thought would be Richie Blackmore's Rainbow because Ronny James Dio's a better vocalist when he gets the wind behind him. I'm a heathen and preferred Rainbow to Deep Purple, I'm sure I'll have to answer for that in the afterlife.

A heathen indeed - whilst Rainbow Rising is good, Book of Taliesyn and Purple in Rock are exceptional.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:06 am

I completely agree that music is an artform not a spectator sport, so its meaningless saying who is "best" really, but I am an eegit so.........

Aerosmith better than the Zeppelin? :-2 Nah!

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:47 am

The Stones arent in the equation ?

Different animal ?

Uncle Kram · Post by **Uncle Kram** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:11 am

Galbally;742959 wrote: I completely agree that music is an artform not a spectator sport, so its meaningless saying who is "best" really, but I am an eegit so.........

Aerosmith better than the Zeppelin? :-2 Nah!

I've met Messrs. Plant and Tyler. Both very charming.

Post by **spot** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:53 pm

The next big concert seems to be Michael Jackson in February at O2 for anything up to ten nights, how's that for bravery? Oh, and Chris de Burgh is playing a 12000 seat stadium in Iran.

You couldn't make up stuff like this, the world's a strange place.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:27 pm

spot;743691 wrote: The next big concert seems to be Michael Jackson in February at O2 for anything up to ten nights, how's that for bravery? Oh, and Chris de Burgh is playing a 12000 seat stadium in Iran.

You couldn't make up stuff like this, the world's a strange place.

Bringing up MJ and CD in a LZ thread is an inappropriate display of irreverence.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:02 pm

spot;743691 wrote: The next big concert seems to be Michael Jackson in February at O2 for anything up to ten nights, how's that for bravery? Oh, and Chris de Burgh is playing a 12000 seat stadium in Iran.

You couldn't make up stuff like this, the world's a strange place.

I would seriously pay pay per view to see the Irish Warbler DeBurgh charming the mad mullahs with his never-ending rendition of Lady in Red, ye gods the world is weird sometimes.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:12 pm

Nomad;743012 wrote: The Stones arent in the equation ?

Different animal ?

Totally different, the Stones are in with bands like the Who and the Beatles, with the latter IMO being fairly heads and shoulders above everyone, but the Stones were pretty cool in their day as well, nearly as cool as the Fab Four and more rock and roll in a certain way. The Who rocked, we are really talking here about the top British acts, which are all pretty seminal across the world. Of course in the 1970s you had Pink Floyd who require no introduction, Bowie, T-Rex, those dudes, then the Sex Pistols and the whole punk thing. But in the 1980s things went a bit pear shaped somewhere and never really recovered. Though there are plenty of good bands in the last 20 years I suppose. U2 being our famous Irish one.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:13 pm

Ive never considered Bowie rock. I dont actually have a definition for what he sounds like to me but its not rock.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:19 pm

rjwould;751214 wrote: I've often felt that way about Bowie too. Although he does seem more rocky (can I say that?) live..

Led Zeppelin was wonderful, but I can't say which band was the best "rock band". there were so many different styles within rock and roll.

I guess glam rock coins it as well as anything. Music is subjective. I think thats the right answer.

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:18 pm

I like some of their songs.

Geronimo · Post by **Geronimo** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:44 pm

Nomad;750471 wrote: Bringing up MJ and CD in a LZ thread is an inappropriate display of irreverence.

I agree with that completely.. thats completely out of tangent..

Les Zeppelin are GREAAAATE! Their songs are so cool and the on stage si so magical and entranzing and cool!

in fact thats one of the few where alive recording is better than studio ones!

and for them it ment both studio and alive, they were greate at both!

The band most known for Hotel California, eagles where also very aware of studio versus concert sound and were greate too even if you can hardly compare the two bands public display.. LOL

led zeppelin was leaded by one man and that man made it all to the top.

he was bringing the soud and lyric to anotehr dimension.

Led Zeppelin rock.

:D :p

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:57 pm

i love Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, Alice Cooper, The Doors, Gary Moore, Robin Fripp. A band called Rare Bird i doubt anyone has heard of:wah: i was a bit if a head banger in my day:D

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:45 pm

I have a lot I like.

Orley · Post by **Orley** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:13 pm

In their long career I have had periodic breaks from LZ. I listen to other bands like those mentioned: Bad Company, Jeff Beck, XTC Rich Kids, The Charlatans, Gorillaz, Queen, The Soft Machine and yes, Deep Purple.

But when I come back each time, usually when they've remastered yet another compilation, I say 'YES'!!! It's not like the frist time, but pretty good nevertheless.

I couldn't get tickets to O2, so I'm going to see a tribute band in May.

Mister Smith · Post by **Mister Smith** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:02 pm

They're my favourite band ever, but I wouldn't say most their songs are hard rock.

I think the reason I like them so much is they have so many different types of song.

I particularly like Going to California, a great acoustic song:)

hamdiderot · Post by **hamdiderot** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:30 pm

This thread is particularly warm.

I think you got good times with the band (complete) with their Bonham who is still an inspiration for all drummers.

I like a particular song which is not theirs but when played by them is just like magic (Stairway To Heaven) , i mean Wish You Were Here of Pink Floyd.

There is a poster of them in the chamber of a character in the movie The First Snow with Guy Pearce.

Galizien · Post by **Galizien** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:50 pm

The question is - â€œGreatest Hard Rock Bandâ€ -

The following ARE â€œHard Rockâ€ bands:

Led Zeppelin

1968â€“1980 â€“ Present? - is a Hard Rock / Blues Rock / Country Rock / Heavy metal band with 200 million to 500 million records sold.

Queen

1970â€“Present â€“ is a Hard Rock / Glam Rock / Pop / Heavy Metal / Progressive Rock band with 200 million to 500 million records sold.

AC/DC

1973â€“Present â€“ is a Hard Rock / Blues Rock band with 200 million to 500 million records sold.

Deep Purple

1968â€“Present â€“ is a Hard Rock / Heavy Metal with over 100 million records sold.

Black Sabbath

1968â€“Present - is a Hard Rock / Heavy metal band with over 100 million records sold.

Aerosmith

1970â€“Present â€“ is a Hard Rock / Blues Rock band with over 100 million records sold.

Iron Maiden

1975â€“Present â€“ is a Heavy Metal / Hard Rock band with over 75 million records sold.

Metallica

1981â€“Present â€“ is Heavy Metal / Thrash Metal / Hard Rock with over 75 million records sold.

Guns N' Roses

1985â€“Present â€“ is a Hard Rock band with over 75 million records sold.

Kiss

1973â€“Present - is a Hard Rock / Heavy Metal band with over 75 million records sold.

Van Halen

1972â€“Present - is a Hard Rock / Heavy Metal band with over 75 million records sold.

Scorpions

1969â€“Present - is a Hard Rock / Heavy Metal band with over 75 million records sold.

Ozzy Osbourne

1980â€“Present - is a Heavy Metal / Hard Rock artist with over 50 million records sold.

Alice Cooper

1965â€“Present - is a Hard Rock / Heavy Metal / Shock Rock / Glam Rock artist with over 50 million records sold.

Boston

1969-Present - is a Rock / Hard Rock band with over 50 million records sold.

Jethro Tull

1968â€“Present â€“ is a Progressive Rock / Hard Rock /Rock band with over 50 million records sold.

Some other â€œHard Rock â€ contendersâ€¦.

Thin Lizzy

U.F.O.

Whitesnake

MotÃ¶rhead

Rainbow

Rush

Triumph

Nazareth

Blue Ã–yster Cult

Saxon

Diamond Head

The following are well loved by many, but NOT â€œHard Rockâ€ bands â€“

The Rolling Stones

1962â€“Present â€“ is a Rock / Pop band with 200 million to 500 million records sold.

Pink Floyd

1964â€“Present â€“ is a Progressive / Psychedelic Rock band with 200 million to 500 million records sold.

The Who

1964â€“Present â€“ is a Rock band with over 100 million records sold.

Eagles

1971â€“Present â€“ is a Rock / Country band with over 100 million records sold.

David Bowie

1964â€“Present â€“ is Rock / Glam Rock / Art Rock / Pop Rock artist with over 100 million records sold.

Status Quo

1967â€“Present â€“ is a Rock band with over 100 million records sold.

Nirvana

1988â€“1994 â€“ is a Alternative Rock / Grunge band with over 75 million records sold.

The Doors

1965â€“1973 â€“ is a Rock / Psychedelic Rock / Blues Rock band with over 75 million records sold.

Oasis

1991-present - is a Rock / Britpop band with over 75 million records sold.

Great bands, but by no stretch of the imagination, are they "Hard Rock" bands.

The answer to the question, was summed up best by Brad Tolinski (Guitar World, Editor-in-chief) in the opening statement of â€œThe power & Mysteryâ€â€¦

â€œFor more than three decades, Led Zeppelin has remained oddly impervious to analysis. The few serious music journalists that have tried to explain the bandâ€™s timeless appeal always seem to come up short. Even to this day, there is no handy explanation or easy soundbite, or even a great book that sums up why they are the best-selling hard rock group of all time. To be fair, Zeppelinâ€™s greatness is genuinely complex. Like a Japanese puzzle box whose mysterious contents are revealed only after one acquires a deep knowledge of how each piece works together, the group defies easy analysis. The truth must be found among the shifting layers of decadence and discipline, and light and shade, and in the explosive synergy of the four supremely talented band members.â€

With that said, LED ZEPPELIN is without a doubtâ€¦ â€œTHE GREATEST HARD ROCK BAND EVERâ€.

raptures_music · Post by **raptures_music** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:06 pm

I think Zeppelin did far more to influence rock as we know it than the Beatles, and I'm not saying that lightly. Sure, the Beatles were a good group and very influential, but Zeppelin absolutely demolished the standards the Beatles set and took rock in a different direction. Jimmy Page did things with a guitar that no one, Jimi Hendrix aside, would've done. Their lyrical content was more mature, cryptic, and certainly more poetic, I think. And Robert Plant's voice.

My mother had me listening to Zeppelin when I was 10, after she'd introduced me to the oldies tunes that every flower child remembers. I like a few of today's rock bands, but Zeppelin remains the best and my favorite. No one else who came before or after Zeppelin could ever compare or compete with them.