Apokalupsis

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iesous
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Therefore thus saith the LORD, If thou return, then will I bring thee again, and thou shalt stand before me: and if thou take forth the precious from the vile, thou shalt be as my mouth: let them return unto thee; but return not thou unto them.


Many readers clasify the book of Apokalupsis as a book of fantasy and things like that, however one must be aware of the very high math treated there. The central message there is the final destruction of Satan and all their followers. Then we must know of him

1. His nature : Drakon

2. His Job : Diabol

3. His name : Dios



Then the first math is the DDD, which in Greek characters are 3 Triangles, which one can see at the Washinton Capitol, at the Vaticanus, and some coins of the Roman Capitol of the Caesars, at the three astronauts of Apollo 11, the Roman Triumvirats, among others as the mysterious Three Times Three

As we three did agree,

In peace, love, and unity,

The Sacred Word to keep,

So we three do agree,

In peace, love, and unity,

The Sacred Word to search;

Until we three,

Or three such as we, shall agree

To close this Royal Arch.




Drakon + Diabol + Dios are 16 letters, and Jesus Christ are 11 letters, from that one gets the famous 1611, it is clear then that that date was not pick up randomly, as it may appear; neither is by chance the 2x11 chapters of the book Apokalupsis, see, for instance, that the logo of United Airlines are 11 in blue and 11 in red, which is 2x11 and in UA the fonetic value of "U" is 21 and the alfabetic value of "A" is 1, that is: 21+1 = 22; while American Airlines is "AA", which is "11"; so, "UA" had doble power that "AA", for that reason "its tower" came down first.

Let's read the following enviroment

And their dead bodies [shall lie] in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. 10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. 11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.


Without any doubt, the write was talking the high technology, the amount of world wide transactions in just 3½ days, without this web communication system is not possible, and "they ... shall not suffer their bodies to be put in graves" means without any doubt internet, camara and this technology used even by children of these days...." they... saw them".. without Sattelites and that high technology is not possible, just to mention some few facts

To put Apokalupsis among the books of myths and fantasy means that such a person is willing to ignore or reject the facts and follow his / her fantasies

There are much more math in the Book of Apokalupsis, for instance:

Count the number of the Beast


if one counts the NUMBER of the beast then one can to be sure of the NAME of the beast, since its number depends on its name



Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, [and] over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.




I invite you to count that number, and then, for sure, you should know the name of the beast

If somebody knows how to display greek characters here, please teach me in order to use them
Ted
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iesous:-6

The basis of the myth of "Revelation" relies on "The myth was also well known in Greco-Roman culture. Its most common form in that contest was the story of the God Apollo and Python, the ancient monster."

"But it is John's identification of the dragon that gives to the Apocalypse a stunning political dimension. John is not simply speaking about a mythological battle between gods in primordial time; he is also talking about a conflict going on in his own time. For John, the present incarnation of the dragon is the Roman Empire. As already noted, the identification of the beast with the Roman Empire is most clearly made in chapter" thirteen and seventeen. pg 283, "Reading the Bible Again For the First Time", Marcus Borg.

Revelation is not about some time in the distant future. It is about John's time and the immediate future for him. Crossan, Borg, Spong, Gordon, and a whole host of other biblical scholars.

Shalom

Ted:-6
iesous
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Ted;644486 wrote:

Revelation is not about some time in the distant future. It is about John's time and the immediate future for him. Crossan, Borg, Spong, Gordon, and a whole host of other biblical scholars.




Ted, Can you show us any document that shows [no opinions] that in those days people around the world from their towns could watch at the same time "objects or events" in Jerusalem [or any other city]?

And their dead bodies [shall lie] in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half,


Can you show us documentation [no opinion] of those days where people around the world could made thousands of world transactions in "internet" time?

And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
Ted
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iesous:-6

It is interesting that you do not want the opinions of the scholars but are content with your own opinion. Are you better trained than they are? Your comments relect either your opinion or the opinion of someone else.

Shalom

Ted:-6
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