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Frederick
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I was out in Perth in '78 and loved the Aussie sense of humour. One of them told an anti Pomme joke which I still laugh at.

Q. What do you call a Pomme who Marries an Aborigine?

A. A bloody social climber!

Come on, let's hear some more of them - I have the skin of a rhino. I'd love to have emigrated out there. I was one of these people who were prepared to roll up my sleeves and work.
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I guess I'm the only one who doesn't get the joke....:confused: :confused:
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ArnoldLayne wrote: Us Poms (British) have been the but of a lot of jokes over the years, mostly friendly rivalry between us and the Ozzies.



The joke assumes the Pom at the bottom of the social pile and by marrying an Aborignal Australian we would be elevating up to the next level, which is purposefully derogatory to Aboriginis
Ahh. Well, it's just not funny when it's got to be explained to me. Or was it not funny anyway? I'm so confused....
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I can never understand why we are called poms, surely poms are English that have migrated?

POHM.....Prisoner of His/Her Majesty
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abbey wrote: I can never understand why we are called poms, surely poms are English that have migrated?

POHM.....Prisoner of His/Her Majesty
When I see "Pom" I automatically think of our abbreviation for Pomeranians. They are so adorable and fluffy, surely THAT can't be a bad thing? Being compared to an adorable, puffy little dog? :-3
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BabyRider wrote: When I see "Pom" I automatically think of our abbreviation for Pomeranians. They are so adorable and fluffy, surely THAT can't be a bad thing? Being compared to an adorable, puffy little dog? :-3Not at all luv :-4

I'm sure Arnie will love being likened to an adorable puffy little dog. :wah:
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ArnoldLayne wrote: Us Poms (British) have been the but of a lot of jokes over the years, mostly friendly rivalry between us and the Ozzies.



The joke assumes the Pom at the bottom of the social pile and by marrying an Aborignal Australian we would be elevating up to the next level, which is purposefully derogatory to Aboriginis


Come on, Arnold! Most jokes are at the expence of somebody - look at the Irish jokes, and yet people like the late Dave Allen were synonymous with jokes about his own people, and everybody loved them.

Is Australia so politically correct that it too, cannot take or make a joke at face value without fear of offending somebody. You gotta be broad-shouldered.
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Diuretic wrote: If you were an aboriginal Frederick, you'd see the joke differently. Where a joke depends on putting someone else down - individually or collectively - it's just not funny. For example English jokes in Australia work on the stereotype that English people have bad hygiene. Irish jokes in the UK work on a stereotype that the Irish are stupid. Jewish jokes work on the stereotype that Jews are tight-fisted. Jokes against Americans in Australia work on the stereotype of the noisy, big-mouthed, rude American tourist. They reinforce negative stereotypes so that the teller can feel superior.


I've never tried to diagnose a joke - I just take it at face value. Half the Irish jokes I hear are, ironically, told to me by the Irish, who have a great sense of humour. My signature bears witness to the fact that I am a born-again Christian, but if somebody decides to tell me a religious joke I will still listen to it and take it at face value. If it's funny I'll laugh: if corny, I'll groan. People at work know I am a practising Christian, but they'll still tell jokes whether they be Irish, Scottish, Jewish, religious or sexual. Even a straight cartoon is based on somebody's stupidity or misunderstanding.

Anyway, you won't have to worry about any more of my insensitive/offensive/racist/obnoxious jokes or any other adjectives that spring to mind, 'cause I'll be off the air for the next three months.
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Dont we have more important things to worry about....:wah: ie....litttle Jonny howard and his minnions...why are our troops in Dili instead of in the Northern Terrority...we should be sorting our own sh@t out
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Diuretic wrote: We already own the natural resources in the NT - but we have to keep those Timor Strait resources locked up for our use so we have to hop in and help the govt that has signed the resources treaty with us just in case those big bad Javans jump in and grab it from us ;)Im not talking resources..Im talking about the abuse of our aboriginal children....its sad to hear what is happening up there:(
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I'm a bit surprised that this thread is still receiving attention, as crude as it is....
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abbey wrote: I can never understand why we are called poms, surely poms are English that have migrated?

POHM.....Prisoner of His/Her Majesty


No that's just what you 'POMMYS' (not POHMS) like to think so you can try to turn it around. No I just think youre all a bunch of red fruit! :wah:

Understand this...

[Q] From Rosemary Wetherall: “Is pom short for Port of Melbourne (where the ships docked), Prisoners Of her Majesty, as they were convict ships, or did we all really look like a cargo of pomegranates when we caught the sun? Or is it simply rhyming slang for immigrant?”

[A] You’ve done a great job of listing many of the explanations that one comes across for the origin of this Australian term for British immigrants. You could have added a possible derivation from the common naval slang term for Portsmouth, Pompey, or from pommes de terres for potatoes, much eaten by British troops in World War One, or an abbreviation for Permit of Migration. All of them except your last two, I have to tell you, are folk etymology (which, for some reason I’ve never understood, loves to invent origins based on acronyms).

Part of the reason for all these theories growing up is that there was for decades much doubt over the true origin of the expression, with various Oxford dictionaries, for example, continuing to say that there is no firm evidence for the pomegranate theory. That origin was described by D H Lawrence in his Kangaroo of 1923: “Pommy is supposed to be short for pomegranate. Pomegranate, pronounced invariably pommygranate, is a near enough rhyme to immigrant, in a naturally rhyming country. Furthermore, immigrants are known in their first months, before their blood ‘thins down’, by their round and ruddy cheeks. So we are told”. You will note that he had to explain the pronunciation that we would now take to be the usual one: in standard English it used not to have the first “e” sounded, with pome often rhyming with home.

It is now pretty well accepted that the pomegranate theory is close to the truth, though there’s a slight twist to take note of. H J Rumsey wrote about it in 1920 in the introduction to his book The Pommies, or New Chums in Australia. He suggested that the word began life on the wharves in Melbourne as a form of rhyming slang. An immigrant was at first called a Jimmy Grant (was there perhaps a famous real person by that name around at the time?), but over time this shifted to Pommy Grant, perhaps as a reference to pomegranate, because the new chums did burn in the sun. Later pommy became a word on its own and was frequently abbreviated still further. The pomegranate theory was also given some years earlier in The Anzac Book of 1916.

Whatever your beliefs about this one, what seems to be true is that the term is not especially old, dating from the end of the nineteenth century at the earliest, certainly not so far back as convict ship days.
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Pinky wrote: WEll, thanks for that! It's always interesting to find out where certain phrases and words come from. I think we had another thread about it in fact.


Hey, no wuckin' forries! Glad to help. :)
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Pinky wrote: Shockwolf didn't stick around then...I wonder why?:D :sneaky:


Aww bless I didn't realise you cared... :-4

Yeah well have you ever been searching for something on google and you happen to find something in a forum youve never been to before that asks something you know the answer too and just feel like you need to throw in your 2 pence?

Well that's what happened to me with this forum. I was only looking for some anti-pom jokes to throw back at my mate who sends me anti-aussie jokes now and again. :wah:
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