Tuesday, Aug 16
Now on Sympatico / MSN
Foxy new theives in P.E.I.
Canadians 'out of touch'?
Tips for conserving power
7 ways to eat smarter
Snoop rape case dropped
Today's Highlights
Patch Adams slams Bush
Quiz: celeb wedding trivia
Controlling computer time
Security for latch-key kids
Lohan sings about dad
There is a smattering of news worthy topics from msn.ca
gosh is it just me or what. I quite frankly would read maybe 3 of those. Sorry I don't mean to offend anyone or their interests, but.... Foxy new theives whooop deee doooo, Canadians out of touch...who cares we like ourselves that way, Snoop ...ok whatever, air your dirty laundry elsewhere, Celebs wedding trivia Pullllleeeeese ok enough said I just think so much of our news is just utter drivel.
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nvalleyvee
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I hope I am not out of line but I think these "newsworthy" things make the news so we can feel better about the way we live our personal lives. There is very little that impacts my life.
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Hey thanks for the post minks.............
I would not have known what a great humanitarian ol Patch Adams really is...
Adams, 60, with a gray waist-length ponytail streaked blue, expressed "shame for our fascist president," referring to Bush, and told reporters that the only way global health will improve is if "we stop worshipping money."
I would not have known what a great humanitarian ol Patch Adams really is...
Adams, 60, with a gray waist-length ponytail streaked blue, expressed "shame for our fascist president," referring to Bush, and told reporters that the only way global health will improve is if "we stop worshipping money."
"If America Was A Tree, The Left Would Root For The Termites...Greg Gutfeld."
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In the United States there's no such thing as real news anymore. Everything we get on the media is propaganda. Ever since they scrapped the equal time rule that used to require contrasting opinions to be presented, every network and magazine has chosen either a right or left slant.
There was a quaint country village in France especially constructed for Marie Antoinette to visit her subjects- a beautiful place, where all the villagers were "poor" commoners, yet wore clean clothes in good repair and ate simple food but always had enough and appeared to live happy lives. This way she didn't have to view the reality of grinding misery of the poor in her country. I don't know whether she had this facade manufactured for herself or if it was done to shield her from reality. Some speculate that when the poor rioted for bread, and she said, "Let them eat cake," she meant it sincerely (and ignorantly).
I believe this is the level of most (not all) Americans' awareness of the outside world and of the reality of what our own elected officials are doing. And likewise, I'm not sure whether it's because we really don't know, or whether we wish to see things a certain way and don't want to be confronted by the truth, and really don't care about anything but our own pleasures and benefits. I'm certain it's a mix of both.
There was a quaint country village in France especially constructed for Marie Antoinette to visit her subjects- a beautiful place, where all the villagers were "poor" commoners, yet wore clean clothes in good repair and ate simple food but always had enough and appeared to live happy lives. This way she didn't have to view the reality of grinding misery of the poor in her country. I don't know whether she had this facade manufactured for herself or if it was done to shield her from reality. Some speculate that when the poor rioted for bread, and she said, "Let them eat cake," she meant it sincerely (and ignorantly).
I believe this is the level of most (not all) Americans' awareness of the outside world and of the reality of what our own elected officials are doing. And likewise, I'm not sure whether it's because we really don't know, or whether we wish to see things a certain way and don't want to be confronted by the truth, and really don't care about anything but our own pleasures and benefits. I'm certain it's a mix of both.
Look what the cat dragged in.
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nvalleyvee wrote: I hope I am not out of line but I think these "newsworthy" things make the news so we can feel better about the way we live our personal lives. There is very little that impacts my life.
no these gossip stories are better left in the tabloids and Vogue, Glamour, and Cosmo.
they show that crap and report on it in hopes of distracting everyone from what is going on in the world. we live in a harsh time. war, famine, pestilence, death. it is out there. we can NOT stick our heads in the sand and hope that it will all "Just go away."
the more we see the world for how it is, the more upset people will be about it and i'm willing to bet that the majority of people will finally say "We've had enough." and then start to actually do something about it. instead of a handful of Tree-huggin hippies out in the middle of nowhere preaching about peace, love, and understanding; it will become a worldwide movement.
that or people will become desensitized and not give a flock anymore.
no these gossip stories are better left in the tabloids and Vogue, Glamour, and Cosmo.
they show that crap and report on it in hopes of distracting everyone from what is going on in the world. we live in a harsh time. war, famine, pestilence, death. it is out there. we can NOT stick our heads in the sand and hope that it will all "Just go away."
the more we see the world for how it is, the more upset people will be about it and i'm willing to bet that the majority of people will finally say "We've had enough." and then start to actually do something about it. instead of a handful of Tree-huggin hippies out in the middle of nowhere preaching about peace, love, and understanding; it will become a worldwide movement.
that or people will become desensitized and not give a flock anymore.
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I agree Wolf - I think things are bad all over the world. I also feel there is very little I can personally do that would make these people's lives better. They are usually under the rule of dictators. They don't have a say in the territorial battles that go on in their countries. They are forced out of their way of life and pushed into starvation. If it were in my power I wopuld give them the education - by farming, by election of officials, my God - just having a say in the way they live their lives. I live in NM. I have a good life. I cannot help them. My heart goes out to them.
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Sounds like a lovely town you live in Far x. :-6
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I love reading my in-laws newspaper, a little town in Pennsylvania. The Saturday paper tells of all the big events of the week-someone left trash at the ball park field, the drugstore forgot to lock up last night, police cruised by a party and told them to be quiet which they did-so peaceful!
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chonsigirl wrote: I love reading my in-laws newspaper, a little town in Pennsylvania. The Saturday paper tells of all the big events of the week-someone left trash at the ball park field, the drugstore forgot to lock up last night, police cruised by a party and told them to be quiet which they did-so peaceful!
And I'll bet those last two weren't even connected, were they? :yh_hypno
And I'll bet those last two weren't even connected, were they? :yh_hypno
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Major Media outlets be it papers, local network TV or cable/satellite news has become as one of the above posters noted - so "balanced" its nothing but mindless mud slinging back and forth and waist deep crapola slanted one way or the other. Was a time that I thought FOX satellite was rising above the rest but lately it seems they have gone almost the tabloid genre and I am watching them less and less as well. About the ONLY thing that I find enlightening is when Cspan 1 and 2 will cover debates in Congress, votes etc or major political whoop de do's with various embedded lifer politicans or wannabe's running and they will then dissect the whole thing quite middle of the road and then have the call in lines for the polarized party groupies and us independent inbetweens - that can be quite interesting at times. Its amazing how much people in this country don't know when it comes to facts and stats and have no desire to pursue the truth and want it tabloidized to suit their particular political whims. Do I personally care about what is really important, yes, but its hard to find reliable sources for real news and facts; NO I could care less about the 6 and 10PM tabloid crap that the mainstream media force feeds us on a daily basis.
I was in the grocery store yesterday when they let me off my ball and chain here in my office and standing in line listening to the others in line arguging about "we get all our oil from this middle Saudiland and this ohmpeck company that makes gas (this woman was my age on top of it).. one in front of her makes some comment that got the first one infuriated that had to do with how dumb she was and we make our own oil and gas in Texas that is why the Bush's are rich they own all of it (another middle aged woman.. scarey stuff my generation is this downright stupid).
...... as the argument continued I decided I could not take them any longer and threw in my 2 cents worth which is now probably 1 cent with inflation, replied:
You are both wrong, the US imports more than half of all its crude oil that is found elsewhere in the world NOT anywhere on USA soil, and the oil from SAUDI land, which is called Saudi Arabia and OPEC which is the abbreviation for the group of controlling oil companies not an actual person (looking at the first mental dwarf) is NOT the main supplier of crude oil to us. By the way we MAKE gasoline from CRUDE OIL - gasoline like you pump it into your car does NOT come out of the ground in that specific form. I'm not sure of the exact percentages any longer but I do know that we get the majority of imported crude from a group of countries that is higher than what we get from the Middle East as a single entitity that means the comment about "all of it from the middle east" is way off base. We get the majority of imports from Mexico, South America and Canada I believe which combined are more than from Saudi Arabia or other souces. They stood there with their mouths open and one asked which magazine I got that from People or US.. I shook my head and changed lanes !!!
I have a link to a Gov site that actually gives a LOT Of good info on our crude importation, consumption as well as what we store and do in the lower 49 and Alaska. If anyone is interested its : http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/usa.html There is a lot of factual info out there that our government provides knowing full well they have bred a nation of mushroom people and the few of us that will take the time and energy to seek it out are not a threat to these homegrown embedded monarchy's.
That being said here's some of the stats from the site that are quite interesting:
The United States contains over 500,000 producing oil wells, the vast majority of which are considered "marginal" or "stripper" wells, generally producing only a few barrels per day of oil. During 2003, top oil producing areas included the Gulf of Mexico (1.6 million bbl/d), Texas onshore (1.1 million bbl/d), Alaska's North Slope (949,000 bbl/d), California (683,000 bbl/d), Louisiana onshore (244,000 bbl/d), Oklahoma (178,000 bbl/d), and Wyoming (143,000 bbl/d).
Lower-48 States oil production in 2004 is estimated to have decreased by 130,000 bbl/d, to 4.58 million barrels per day, in 2004, with an increase of 190,000 bbl/d expected in 2005. Generally speaking, Lower-48 onshore production, particularly in Texas, has fallen in recent years, while offshore (mainly Gulf of Mexico) production is rising. For 2004, prior to Hurricane Ivan in mid-September, Gulf of Mexico oil production had been expected to increase both from new fields that came online in late 2003 as well as from start-ups at the southern Green Canyon deepwater area in late 2004. By late 2005, the Mars, Mad Dog, Ursa, Thunder Horse and Nakika Federal Offshore fields are expected to account for about 12% of Lower-48 oil production.
Petroleum Imports/Exports
The United States averaged total net oil (crude and products) imports of an estimated 11.8 million bbl/d during January-October 2004, representing around 58% of total U.S. oil demand. Crude oil imports from Persian Gulf sources averaged 2.4 million bbl/d during that period. Overall, the top suppliers of crude oil to the United States during January-October 2004 were Canada (1.6 million bbl/d), Mexico (1.6 million bbl/d), Saudi Arabia (1.5 million bbl/d), Venezuela (1.3 million bbl/d), and Nigeria (1.1 million bbl/d).
We are still the largest consumer and WASTER of these products as well.
Hey.. I'm finally off hold and a human is coming on line.. gotta run...
I was in the grocery store yesterday when they let me off my ball and chain here in my office and standing in line listening to the others in line arguging about "we get all our oil from this middle Saudiland and this ohmpeck company that makes gas (this woman was my age on top of it).. one in front of her makes some comment that got the first one infuriated that had to do with how dumb she was and we make our own oil and gas in Texas that is why the Bush's are rich they own all of it (another middle aged woman.. scarey stuff my generation is this downright stupid).
...... as the argument continued I decided I could not take them any longer and threw in my 2 cents worth which is now probably 1 cent with inflation, replied:
You are both wrong, the US imports more than half of all its crude oil that is found elsewhere in the world NOT anywhere on USA soil, and the oil from SAUDI land, which is called Saudi Arabia and OPEC which is the abbreviation for the group of controlling oil companies not an actual person (looking at the first mental dwarf) is NOT the main supplier of crude oil to us. By the way we MAKE gasoline from CRUDE OIL - gasoline like you pump it into your car does NOT come out of the ground in that specific form. I'm not sure of the exact percentages any longer but I do know that we get the majority of imported crude from a group of countries that is higher than what we get from the Middle East as a single entitity that means the comment about "all of it from the middle east" is way off base. We get the majority of imports from Mexico, South America and Canada I believe which combined are more than from Saudi Arabia or other souces. They stood there with their mouths open and one asked which magazine I got that from People or US.. I shook my head and changed lanes !!!
I have a link to a Gov site that actually gives a LOT Of good info on our crude importation, consumption as well as what we store and do in the lower 49 and Alaska. If anyone is interested its : http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/usa.html There is a lot of factual info out there that our government provides knowing full well they have bred a nation of mushroom people and the few of us that will take the time and energy to seek it out are not a threat to these homegrown embedded monarchy's.
That being said here's some of the stats from the site that are quite interesting:
The United States contains over 500,000 producing oil wells, the vast majority of which are considered "marginal" or "stripper" wells, generally producing only a few barrels per day of oil. During 2003, top oil producing areas included the Gulf of Mexico (1.6 million bbl/d), Texas onshore (1.1 million bbl/d), Alaska's North Slope (949,000 bbl/d), California (683,000 bbl/d), Louisiana onshore (244,000 bbl/d), Oklahoma (178,000 bbl/d), and Wyoming (143,000 bbl/d).
Lower-48 States oil production in 2004 is estimated to have decreased by 130,000 bbl/d, to 4.58 million barrels per day, in 2004, with an increase of 190,000 bbl/d expected in 2005. Generally speaking, Lower-48 onshore production, particularly in Texas, has fallen in recent years, while offshore (mainly Gulf of Mexico) production is rising. For 2004, prior to Hurricane Ivan in mid-September, Gulf of Mexico oil production had been expected to increase both from new fields that came online in late 2003 as well as from start-ups at the southern Green Canyon deepwater area in late 2004. By late 2005, the Mars, Mad Dog, Ursa, Thunder Horse and Nakika Federal Offshore fields are expected to account for about 12% of Lower-48 oil production.
Petroleum Imports/Exports
The United States averaged total net oil (crude and products) imports of an estimated 11.8 million bbl/d during January-October 2004, representing around 58% of total U.S. oil demand. Crude oil imports from Persian Gulf sources averaged 2.4 million bbl/d during that period. Overall, the top suppliers of crude oil to the United States during January-October 2004 were Canada (1.6 million bbl/d), Mexico (1.6 million bbl/d), Saudi Arabia (1.5 million bbl/d), Venezuela (1.3 million bbl/d), and Nigeria (1.1 million bbl/d).
We are still the largest consumer and WASTER of these products as well.
Hey.. I'm finally off hold and a human is coming on line.. gotta run...
The difference between Congress as envisoned by the Founding Fathers and the Congress we have today is one of them inspires patriots to support it, and the other inspires patriots to buy extra ammo (Angel Shamaya)
do we reeeeealllllllyyyyyyly care??????
I've been on a quest these last couple of years being so totally disgusted with the overall media and the enormous crap they fed everyone so they can pander to whatever political group is their choice at the moment, closely followed by
the ever endearing lifer politicans in DC ON BOTH SIDES, that I don't buy anything from any of them as cold hard facts/stats until I can research it myself and see what I come up with. Which 9 times out of 10 shows them to be so far from anything that even remotely resembles the truth my disdain for the lot of them grows daily.
Being its only the two of us at home now, plus the dog kids... dinner means sitting on the couch in the family room with the TV blaring in the background so the husband-type can watch his usual fix of local news fodder followed by the networks and fox... I don't even listen to it or pay attention until the weather comes on, or its something local and directly affects us. I almost welcome when he gets bored with the slow nights and they pander to the hollywood celebrity garbage in the news and turns on either OLN for the fishing shows or the playboy channel. I Only draw the line with OLN when he turns on that one fishing show where the "guy" cannot go a sentence without saying " good fish" 5 times.. that makes me nuts !! Otherwise the sporting shows are much more interesting than any news show on and blabbering on about nothing... and the PB channel.. ah I can deal with it, it can be amusing at times.
I have to do some research... I remember hearing one night in the background about some state on the east coast who's governor was fed up with this price gouging on gas and I thought they said he had a law passed that he signed that would not allow the gas companies to do it in HIS state and so far they remain the lowest and well below the rest of it. Need to see if that is for real and what state it is if factual.. Good *fuel* for the activist minions to really get up
the Oil companies butts and give them some searing hemmorhoids for their lastest
folly with us, if true.
They just forwarded the phones from the factory location to my office here so I best get back to work since the overflow should start any minute... catch ya'll later tonight.
the ever endearing lifer politicans in DC ON BOTH SIDES, that I don't buy anything from any of them as cold hard facts/stats until I can research it myself and see what I come up with. Which 9 times out of 10 shows them to be so far from anything that even remotely resembles the truth my disdain for the lot of them grows daily.
Being its only the two of us at home now, plus the dog kids... dinner means sitting on the couch in the family room with the TV blaring in the background so the husband-type can watch his usual fix of local news fodder followed by the networks and fox... I don't even listen to it or pay attention until the weather comes on, or its something local and directly affects us. I almost welcome when he gets bored with the slow nights and they pander to the hollywood celebrity garbage in the news and turns on either OLN for the fishing shows or the playboy channel. I Only draw the line with OLN when he turns on that one fishing show where the "guy" cannot go a sentence without saying " good fish" 5 times.. that makes me nuts !! Otherwise the sporting shows are much more interesting than any news show on and blabbering on about nothing... and the PB channel.. ah I can deal with it, it can be amusing at times.
I have to do some research... I remember hearing one night in the background about some state on the east coast who's governor was fed up with this price gouging on gas and I thought they said he had a law passed that he signed that would not allow the gas companies to do it in HIS state and so far they remain the lowest and well below the rest of it. Need to see if that is for real and what state it is if factual.. Good *fuel* for the activist minions to really get up
the Oil companies butts and give them some searing hemmorhoids for their lastest
folly with us, if true.
They just forwarded the phones from the factory location to my office here so I best get back to work since the overflow should start any minute... catch ya'll later tonight.
The difference between Congress as envisoned by the Founding Fathers and the Congress we have today is one of them inspires patriots to support it, and the other inspires patriots to buy extra ammo (Angel Shamaya)
do we reeeeealllllllyyyyyyly care??????
Xxena wrote: I've been on a quest these last couple of years being so totally disgusted with the overall media and the enormous crap they fed everyone so they can pander to whatever political group is their choice at the moment, closely followed by
the ever endearing lifer politicans in DC ON BOTH SIDES, that I don't buy anything from any of them as cold hard facts/stats until I can research it myself and see what I come up with. Which 9 times out of 10 shows them to be so far from anything that even remotely resembles the truth my disdain for the lot of them grows daily.
Being its only the two of us at home now, plus the dog kids... dinner means sitting on the couch in the family room with the TV blaring in the background so the husband-type can watch his usual fix of local news fodder followed by the networks and fox... I don't even listen to it or pay attention until the weather comes on, or its something local and directly affects us. I almost welcome when he gets bored with the slow nights and they pander to the hollywood celebrity garbage in the news and turns on either OLN for the fishing shows or the playboy channel. I Only draw the line with OLN when he turns on that one fishing show where the "guy" cannot go a sentence without saying " good fish" 5 times.. that makes me nuts !! Otherwise the sporting shows are much more interesting than any news show on and blabbering on about nothing... and the PB channel.. ah I can deal with it, it can be amusing at times.
I have to do some research... I remember hearing one night in the background about some state on the east coast who's governor was fed up with this price gouging on gas and I thought they said he had a law passed that he signed that would not allow the gas companies to do it in HIS state and so far they remain the lowest and well below the rest of it. Need to see if that is for real and what state it is if factual.. Good *fuel* for the activist minions to really get up
the Oil companies butts and give them some searing hemmorhoids for their lastest
folly with us, if true.
They just forwarded the phones from the factory location to my office here so I best get back to work since the overflow should start any minute... catch ya'll later tonight.
Bravo girl I am jumping on your band wagon with you. I too am utterly disgusted with the glorified shite the media calls news. It has become down right insulting to my intelligence. I have not bought a newspaper in 2 years and do not watch the news on th TV I tolerate small doses on the radio cause they only offer up bits. That is good enough for me.
the ever endearing lifer politicans in DC ON BOTH SIDES, that I don't buy anything from any of them as cold hard facts/stats until I can research it myself and see what I come up with. Which 9 times out of 10 shows them to be so far from anything that even remotely resembles the truth my disdain for the lot of them grows daily.
Being its only the two of us at home now, plus the dog kids... dinner means sitting on the couch in the family room with the TV blaring in the background so the husband-type can watch his usual fix of local news fodder followed by the networks and fox... I don't even listen to it or pay attention until the weather comes on, or its something local and directly affects us. I almost welcome when he gets bored with the slow nights and they pander to the hollywood celebrity garbage in the news and turns on either OLN for the fishing shows or the playboy channel. I Only draw the line with OLN when he turns on that one fishing show where the "guy" cannot go a sentence without saying " good fish" 5 times.. that makes me nuts !! Otherwise the sporting shows are much more interesting than any news show on and blabbering on about nothing... and the PB channel.. ah I can deal with it, it can be amusing at times.
I have to do some research... I remember hearing one night in the background about some state on the east coast who's governor was fed up with this price gouging on gas and I thought they said he had a law passed that he signed that would not allow the gas companies to do it in HIS state and so far they remain the lowest and well below the rest of it. Need to see if that is for real and what state it is if factual.. Good *fuel* for the activist minions to really get up
the Oil companies butts and give them some searing hemmorhoids for their lastest
folly with us, if true.
They just forwarded the phones from the factory location to my office here so I best get back to work since the overflow should start any minute... catch ya'll later tonight.
Bravo girl I am jumping on your band wagon with you. I too am utterly disgusted with the glorified shite the media calls news. It has become down right insulting to my intelligence. I have not bought a newspaper in 2 years and do not watch the news on th TV I tolerate small doses on the radio cause they only offer up bits. That is good enough for me.
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