North Korea Aid

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According to recent news reports 40% of North Koreans will need food aid next year because of shortages of fertilizer and fuel needed to grow crops.

Should the world again provide such aid?

The immediate humanitarian response will like be, of course, we can't let people starve. And yet, this has happened over and over again because of the government of North Korea and the way it runs the country.

So in the long run is the rest of the world helping the North Korean people or merely propping up a dictatorial regime that abuses the people while maintaining one of the worlds largest standing armies and leverages world opinion to help keep it in power?

Seems to me that the only way things will change for the better in North Korea is for the people to have had enough and rise up.

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Jester;1081674 wrote: No Help.

No more helping the world. Figure it out yer own dang selves, ask Russia for help or Iran, or China for it.

I'm sure Chavez in Venezulea would liek to contirbute and russian planes can fly it in!


I think that should be our country's new motto! :wah: :-6

[Kindle]

If the people rise up,

dollars to donuts,

we'll be there in a heartbeat.

[Oscar Namechange]

My initial response to this would be 'Tough' their dictatorship has brought the people of North Korea to the brink of starvation many times before and many times, world leaders have tried to help. The secrecy surrounding the dictatorship of North Korea has put these people down time and time again.

However, if we are to progress as caring world, we need to at least try to get aid through. If their Government don't allow help, well, then at least we tried.

If we can help, maybe it could be a turning point in ending the North Korean regime that hurts it's own people.

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Jester;1082336 wrote: :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

I got to hear this, why is their lack of food and dictator rigime remotely related to us being thier problem?

I'm sure the US and the west is the cause of Russia's social/communism too eh?


How can the West be the main problem scrat???

They have never let us in so how can we now be their problem??

Don't tell me, the West is responsible for Russia's famine as well because we killed 20 million of their men in the war???

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Looks like the USA is sending it whatever

BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | US resumes North Korea food aid

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Jester;1082340 wrote: I think we ought to put the free food sign facing north on the south korean side of the border.

The only reason North Korea needs a military is to keep it's own people inside North Korea.

The people need to be a part of thier own revolution, if its not fought for by them it wont be won by them and they will never seek freedom and hold it otherwise. They have to feel the need, starvation is a powerful motivator, they need to understand that it isnt the world responsibility to fed them, its thier own.

Unfortunatly thier government will allow help to come in, by anyone who wants to help, its what they plan on. While they spend all thier money on nuclear armaments and thier people starve.

I say we arm them and feed them, when they bring back military clad communist body they can have his weight in food. Bring back thier weapon and get 500pounds of food and a free trip to SK for 30 days!


Very well said.

I have often thought that an uprising is the only way for it's people but the regime is very good at repression. Do as we say or we shoot you.

I brings to mind an event some time ago with us and Pakistan.

Tony Blair went out there to talk to the President about rumours of training camps for young vulnerable British muslims. Pakistan told Blair to 'Mind his own business'.

That's fine, we can deal with that.

A few months later, a massive earthquake hit Pakistan and the first thing the president did was call upon the west for aid. Blair like a numpty, gave it to them and they had the gall to ask the UK to send out more as it wasn't enough.

You got to laugh sometimes haven't you???

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Here is a summary of the ty[e of country we are taslking about. This is from the CIA.



North Korea, one of the world's most centrally directed and least open economies, faces chronic economic problems. Industrial capital stock is nearly beyond repair as a result of years of underinvestment and shortages of spare parts. Industrial and power output have declined in parallel from pre-1990 levels. Due in part to severe summer flooding followed by dry weather conditions in the fall of 2006, the nation suffered its 13th year of food shortages because of on-going systemic problems including a lack of arable land, collective farming practices, and persistent shortages of tractors and fuel. During the summer of 2007, severe flooding again occurred. Large-scale international food aid deliveries have allowed the people of North Korea to escape widespread starvation since famine threatened in 1995, but the population continues to suffer from prolonged malnutrition and poor living conditions. Large-scale military spending draws off resources needed for investment and civilian consumption. Since 2002, the government has formalized an arrangement whereby private "farmers' markets" were allowed to begin selling a wider range of goods. It also permitted some private farming on an experimental basis in an effort to boost agricultural output. In October 2005, the government tried to reverse some of these policies by forbidding private sales of grains and reinstituting a centralized food rationing system. By December 2005, the government terminated most international humanitarian assistance operations in North Korea (calling instead for developmental assistance only) and restricted the activities of remaining international and non-governmental aid organizations such as the World Food Program. External food aid now comes primarily from China and South Korea in the form of grants and long-term concessional loans. During the October 2007 summit, South Korea also agreed to develop some of North Korea's infrastructure and natural resources and light industry. Firm political control remains the Communist government's overriding concern, which will likely inhibit the loosening of economic regulations.

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I see no other option to America and Britain than invade.